Is American football really more brutal than Boxing???

[Beercules]

Getting hit in the face with punches > kicking a soccer ball


Football is rough too.

H0m0s from across the pond don't understand.

[Cypocryphy]

Huh?

Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Oscar, Canelo etc. have made way more money than any football player.

Yeah .... NO. You are showing exceptions to the rule. I suppose I could throw names out there like Tom Brady, who would blow most of those guys out of the water.

Here:

The median salary for a professional boxer is $51,370, which may surprise many of you looking to become a professional boxer. This means that half of the professional boxers competing today earned less than this amount. Only the top 1% of all professional boxers earn more than a million dollars per year, the lowest 10% of all professional boxers earn less than $19,220 per year.

For a Football player:

The median salary for all NFL players is $860,000. Not a shabby income, but still far below the $2 million that gets more publicity. For perspective, a starting one-year rookie has a minimum income of $435,000.

It's a HUGE difference. It's not even comparable.

[RightJabLikeZab]

Huh?

Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Oscar, Canelo etc. have made way more money than any football player.

The average football player makes way more than the average boxer. The 20th highest salary in the nfl is $23.5 mil/yr. The 20th highest paid boxer makes nothing close. Minimum salary in 2021 is 600k in NFL.

[Cypocryphy]

I've made this argument before, and maybe I'm just a biased canuck but ice hockey seems like the most brutal pro sport to me. For non-combat / team sports anyway.

Fighting is more or less allowed, the hits are almost equal just the dudes aren't as heavy, and the surface is the big deciding factor. They're basically playing on slick concrete with razors on their feet and the boards don't offer much sympathy either. At least football is played on grass/turf and no boundaries to crash into. Then you have sticks to the face, pucks to the face. Not to mention NFL season is like what 16 games long? vs 82 games in the NHL. There is a reason they say the Stanley Cup is the most gruelling trophy to win in sports.

No question football is a savage sport that is extremely injury prone but ever seen someone gushing blood out their neck almost dying in a football game?

Haven't seen much of it but rugby seems pretty brutal too and no padding like deathofaclown said above.

Yeah. I suppose but I still think the NFL is worse. I had a beer with an ex-NFL lineman from the Vikings. He was f'd up man. Real bad. He told me that his spine, his knees, everything were completely ruined. He told me he has to take morphine everyday just to get out of bed and that it just doesn't work anymore. It was depressing talking to him. He played for 12 years or so as a pro.

I suppose I have never met a pro hockey player, but I haven't heard stories like that coming from ex-hockey players. I'm not sure how many suffer brain damage and live a life as a cripple later on.

By the way, he was HUGE. Biggest guy I have ever personally met.

[GrandpaBernard]

I heard more people get life changing brain damage from football than boxing

but perception matters

most people can’t handle being punched in the face

so boxing will always have the rep for brutality

[GrandpaBernard]

Yeah. I suppose but I still think the NFL is worse. I had a beer with an ex-NFL lineman from the Vikings. He was f'd up man. Real bad. He told me that his spine, his knees, everything were completely ruined. He told me he has to take morphine everyday just to get out of bed and that it just doesn't work anymore. It was depressing talking to him. He played for 12 years or so as a pro.

I suppose I have never met a pro hockey player, but I haven't heard stories like that coming from ex-hockey players. I'm not sure how many suffer brain damage and live a life as a cripple later on.

By the way, he was HUGE. Biggest guy I have ever personally met.

When you put it like this who can blame OJ

his body was being destroyed on his way to riches

ofc he wasn’t going to let some bimbo bounce off with half his sht

[YoungManRumble]

Yeah. I suppose but I still think the NFL is worse. I had a beer with an ex-NFL lineman from the Vikings. He was f'd up man. Real bad. He told me that his spine, his knees, everything were completely ruined. He told me he has to take morphine everyday just to get out of bed and that it just doesn't work anymore. It was depressing talking to him. He played for 12 years or so as a pro.

I suppose I have never met a pro hockey player, but I haven't heard stories like that coming from ex-hockey players. I'm not sure how many suffer brain damage and live a life as a cripple later on.

By the way, he was HUGE. Biggest guy I have ever personally met.

There is a lot of overlap between CTE and pain killer abuse. Lots of teams have doctors that shoot them up with something just to get through games.

The consistent punishment might be more damaging in football though. I mean if the seasons were any longer these guys' careers would probably be cut in half or worse.

I'm not very knowledgeable about football though and very well could be wrong. Just an alternative viewpoint for the discussion.

[GrandpaBernard]

Shawn Porter has a football background and it shows

tough sob with endless stamina and fast feet

he fights how you’d imagine a football player turned boxer would fight

[GreatMalenko]

Probably. NFL linemen have nearly 100 violent collisions every week for at least 17 games plus preseason and playoffs. Boxers are in the ring three times a year max.

[!! Shawn]

I heard more people get life changing brain damage from football than boxing

but perception matters

most people can’t handle being punched in the face

so boxing will always have the rep for brutality

Ive never met a kid college football that is slurring from brain damage. Ive met lots of kids still in the amateurs that were noticeably slurring a few years later when I met them again.
A sport where the goal is to inflict trauma to the head, surprisingly has lots of people impacted by it. The saying is punch drunk for a reason.