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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg

    Baer vs Carnera, Dempsey v Willard, Ali v Liston II, Patterson v Johanson II, Tyson v Berbick, Louis v Schmeleng II, and on and on. Tyson appears to be attempting to cater to both casual fans who hate wilder and sycophantic journalists who themselves seem to know less than nothing about boxing history
    “I’ve never, ever seen a more one-sided beatdown of an undefeated world heavyweight champion than I did to Deontay Wilder in that second fight. "

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    • Monty Fisto
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      #12
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg

      Baer vs Carnera, Dempsey v Willard, Ali v Liston II, Patterson v Johanson II, Tyson v Berbick, Louis v Schmeleng II, and on and on. Tyson appears to be attempting to cater to both casual fans who hate wilder and sycophantic journalists who themselves seem to know less than nothing about boxing history
      Fury's words: "I’ve never, ever seen a more one-sided beatdown of an undefeated world heavyweight champion than I did to Deontay Wilder in that second fight."

      So straight off the bat, you've only listed a single example of an undefeated world HW champ being beaten (Johansson). And in that fight, the first four rounds were close and competitive (Johansson buzzed Patterson in the second round to the extent that Patterson was backing up and circling around to try and recover). Fifth round, Patterson knocks him clean out. Is that really a more one-sided beatdown than Fury's battering of Wilder from pillar to post? Maybe, maybe not.

      Spinks is a fair example, because he offered nothing.

      But in terms of a drawn-out humiliation of an undefeated HW champ, Wilder being ragdolled around the ring until his corner were too scared to let it continue is a prime contender.
      Last edited by Monty Fisto; 10-02-2021, 10:45 AM.

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      • Oldskoolg
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013

        “I’ve never, ever seen a more one-sided beatdown of an undefeated world heavyweight champion than I did to Deontay Wilder in that second fight. "
        I’ll narrow it down then of the examples I gave….Johansson was undefeated and absolutely assaulted Patterson in the first fight. The rematch ended in the most frightening beating and end result ko I have seen in all of my life of watching boxing

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          #14
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg

          I’ll narrow it down then of the examples I gave….Johansson was undefeated and absolutely assaulted Patterson in the first fight. The rematch ended in the most frightening beating and end result ko I have seen in all of my life of watching boxing
          It was brutal but was it more so than what Liston did to Patterson, twice?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg

            Baer vs Carnera, Dempsey v Willard, Ali v Liston II, Patterson v Johanson II, Tyson v Berbick, Louis v Schmeleng II, and on and on. Tyson appears to be attempting to cater to both casual fans who hate wilder and sycophantic journalists who themselves seem to know less than nothing about boxing history
            To be fair he said undefeated world heavyweight champion. None of the guys you mentioned were undefeated going into those fights.

            The only one I can recollect is Tyson/Spinks.

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              #16
              “I’ve never, ever seen a more one-sided beatdown of an undefeated world heavyweight champion than I did to Deontay Wilder in that second fight. "
              And another one:

              Foreman/Frazier I, 1973:

              Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 10-02-2021, 12:39 PM.

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              • Monty Fisto
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                #17
                Foreman vs Frazier is a good one.

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                • Monty Fisto
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by OldTerry

                  It was brutal but was it more so than what Liston did to Patterson, twice?
                  Once again... We are talking about the most one-sided beatdowns of an undefeated HW champion. Patterson had previously lost to Joey Maxim and Ingemar Johansson, so cannot qualify as an example of a one-sided beatdown of an undefeated HW champion.

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                  • Monty Fisto
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                    I’ll narrow it down then of the examples I gave….Johansson was undefeated and absolutely assaulted Patterson in the first fight. The rematch ended in the most frightening beating and end result ko I have seen in all of my life of watching boxing
                    We agree it was a horrible and devastating KO. We'll have to disagree about the whole fight being an example of a one-sided beatdown.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      No, Tyson Fury is the only one unstable here. He's a goddamned liar. He thinks that no one can smell his bullshit but him. He is both delusional and dodgy as fuck and everyone knows it and can see it.

                      It's only a matter of days now that Deontay Wilder will expose this chump for the kind of fraud and cheat that he really is. He's an over hyped and overrated bum who cannot win unless it's through shady and dishonest means.
                      You still talking about Fury or Wilder?

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