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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    And if they are good with their footwork and at creating angles?

    That might be the most difficult style to beat in all of boxing.
    They have and will always be a night mare for any fighter. An average southpaw can make an elite fighter look bad.

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    • STREET CLEANER
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      #12
      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
      Its literally a game of getting the OUTSIDE foot and straight rear punches. Whichever guy gets to the outside faster/most of time AND lands their rear power straight most of time will win.

      Need to pressure Usyk to win. Cant box him. Anybody can get caught though especially at HW
      I think the opposite. AJ needed to fight like a bigger man and let Usyk come forward. True that Usyk had his foot more in the outside than AJ and is do to AJ stepping in with the jab most of the times. AJ was trying to get a knockout and Usyk's counterpunching skills were sharp, you can tell they prepared for this.

      AJ has to adjust in going back in an angle with Usyk's faints and let him work more to score punches. Plus he has to touch Usyk more instead of trying to KO him with every punch like he did in the beginning of the fight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
        I'm 6'4 275lbs and right handed, but when I decided to take up more striking alongside my wrestling and BJJ I opted to fight in a southpaw stance to make use of my jab. I still think its one of the best decisions I made as I regularly hang with two world champion fighters with decades more experience than me.

        The jab is ****ing underrated and it is INSANE to me seeing so many seemingly experienced fighters who dont use it. Too many people become obsessed with the power right but I've realised that, whilst forgoing use of a power right for a power left makes that same left a little weak, I have immense leverage on my left hook (probably my post powerful punch).

        I think the issue a lot of modern boxers have is that they don't really work on movement and use of the jab. I feel many just opt for pads and bags which I don't feel allow one to learn the importance of using the jab not only as a weapon but as a way to establish range and pressuring the opponent. This is why I thought Joshua's performance was so ****ing terrible. I had absolutely no idea what he was attempting to do to put the pressure on Usyk. Its like he had a round or two where he started to use the stiff jab and then just stopped. Its also noticeable that a lot of boxers these days don't really shadowbox or work on footwork drills. Especially in the heavies. It shows when about the only two fighters with visibly decent footwork, Usyk and Fury, are the ones who've ended up at the top.
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        If you haven't fought you don't know what it's like to be in there with top level fighters. MANY boxers use their jab exceptionally. MANY boxers shadowbox all the time. You must be fooling around in an MMA gym. Joshua's performance was as good as he could give. Usyk is just that damn good.

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        • Lomadeaux
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          #14
          You guys on your flavor of the month. I always enjoyed working with southpaws. The angles were always attractive to me. Only fought a few. If you're not constantly working with them then yea, you'll have trouble. Southpaws do so well against conventional stances because that's all they work with.

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          • deathofaclown
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            #15
            Originally posted by BangEM
            A wiseman once said: if you want to be a champion, stay away from southpaws.
            Only if you’re a bum like AJ that can’t box

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            • Smash
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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              I think Amir Khan prefers southpaws for example.
              This is correct. I remember watching crawford khan and when crawford switched to southpaw i thought, this is your chance, go for it, knock him out!! didnt happen, maybe he didnt have the balls in that fight



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                #17
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                I think the opposite. AJ needed to fight like a bigger man and let Usyk come forward. True that Usyk had his foot more in the outside than AJ and is do to AJ stepping in with the jab most of the times. AJ was trying to get a knockout and Usyk's counterpunching skills were sharp, you can tell they prepared for this.

                AJ has to adjust in going back in an angle with Usyk's faints and let him work more to score punches. Plus he has to touch Usyk more instead of trying to KO him with every punch like he did in the beginning of the fight.
                You can't fight going backwards against Usyk especially if youre longer, taller, and bigger. You cant give a thinker time to think. You need to press them and take a page out of JCC Sr/Maidana book and hit them every and any where...get them uncomfortable.

                And AJ showed the offensive prowess against Wlad and even Ruiz. AJ has the combos, speed, and power but needs to outFIGHT the boxer

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Smash

                  This is correct. I remember watching crawford khan and when crawford switched to southpaw i thought, this is your chance, go for it, knock him out!! didnt happen, maybe he didnt have the balls in that fight


                  I think Crawford was simply a level above him in all honesty.

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by #1PaperChamp

                    You can't fight going backwards against Usyk especially if youre longer, taller, and bigger. You cant give a thinker time to think. You need to press them and take a page out of JCC Sr/Maidana book and hit them every and any where...get them uncomfortable.

                    And AJ showed the offensive prowess against Wlad and even Ruiz. AJ has the combos, speed, and power but needs to outFIGHT the boxer
                    He won' be fighting backwards. He has to step back when Usyi faint so he has to reset. AJ is much taller an longer and it would force Usyk to fight instead of catching AJ on the offensive. When AJ goes forward he negates his height and length.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
                      Its literally a game of getting the OUTSIDE foot and straight rear punches. Whichever guy gets to the outside faster/most of time AND lands their rear power straight most of time will win.

                      Need to pressure Usyk to win. Cant box him. Anybody can get caught though especially at HW
                      There are times when you don't want that outside angle. It just depends. There are no hard and fast rules here. It just depends. Also, sometimes you can be at a gym that has several southpaws. So you can get exposure that way. Some have a hard time and some have an easy time. It just depends.

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