When Did They Start Doing Rematch Clauses In Boxing?

[MikeyMike100]

I always wondered why Mike Tyson didn't have a rematch clause vs Buster Douglas. When did they start doing rematch clauses?

[LeOoze]

Ali vs Liston had a rematch clause so likely forever

[MikeyMike100]

Ali vs Liston had a rematch clause so likely forever

Interesting. So they just didn't think to do it for Tyson/Douglas?

[soul_survivor]

Interesting. So they just didn't think to do it for Tyson/Douglas?

Not every fight has a rematch clause. It usually happens in the most important fights, Tyson/Douglas was not an important fight. It was essentially meant to be a marketing opportunity in Japan. The fight was TysonHolyfield and that was all but signed...

[PeepeePoopooMan]

Interesting. So they just didn't think to do it for Tyson/Douglas?

Probably thought he wasn't gonna lose lol

[#1PaperChamp]

I always wondered why Mike Tyson didn't have a rematch clause vs Buster Douglas. When did they start doing rematch clauses?

Obviously A side fighters use rematch clauses as insurance but when they dont use a clause??

...Arrogance, ****iness, etc.

Its also a mindset. Having a rematch clause suggests lack of self-confidence.

Opponent also might require no rematch clause if theyre marketable enough on their own...

Could be any of those reasons

[sicko]

nothing wrong with rematches just not a fan of wanting to dictate rematches...this is something Eddie Hearn does

your guy lose he should NOT still be treated as the A Side in the rematch but Champs always had Immediate Rematch Options

[MikeyMike100]

nothing wrong with rematches just not a fan of wanting to dictate rematches...this is something Eddie Hearn does

your guy lose he should NOT still be treated as the A Side in the rematch but Champs always had Immediate Rematch Options

Agreed. It's something that I would like to be gotten rid of. If the fighters want to fight again cool but it shouldn't be mandatory

[elfag]

I think lennox had one for rahman, that was 20 years ago.


Its a strategic thing, the A side wants to have a rematch clause for them. The B side might not get one. If you the A side its to protect you from getting locked out at getting your belt back and it may even have conditions for the split in a rematch, so its there to protect you from the guy who just got the upset being able to say, ok sure I will give you a rematch but I want a 90/10 split, take it or leave it, I am champ now so I will go fight some bums unless you take 10%.

And dont forget the managers, promoters and all that, they take from the boxers purse split, so they are also interested in putting in all those clauses in the contracts for themselves too not just the fighters doing it on their own. You think top rank or matchroom or whomever isnt looking out to protect their asses.


Something like the douglas fight they just really overlooked it and with the odds being 40-1 or whatever they were, they didnt put it in there. Now its probably standard to have them in every single time. It seems like Loma-lopez didnt have one though. But consider Loma isnt a mega draw like an AJ or canelo ect as far as the promoters are concerned.


You would also think promoters would want them more for cross promotion fights. Apparently Floyd-Pac didnt have one but i guess after 5 years of negotiations that further putting in a rematch clause with so much money at stake neither side wanted to be tied to one when they didnt know what the outcome would look like.

[elfag]

Obviously A side fighters use rematch clauses as insurance but when they dont use a clause??

...Arrogance, ****iness, etc.

Its also a mindset. Having a rematch clause suggests lack of self-confidence.

Opponent also might require no rematch clause if theyre marketable enough on their own...

Could be any of those reasons

Well if its same promoter, you got like say Loma-Lopez both top rank, now that lopez, the 24 year old with a longer career lifespand, got his win over loma, top rank may not care as much about a rematch, its better for them that lopez won. I guess loma could have asked for one but in some cross promotion fights, I bet the promoter is asking for the clause as much as the fighters are.


Also I think in some cases, in house fights may not have one if the promoter thinks they can control the next opponent anyways and setup a rematch. Douglas-Tyson was in house don king, so maybe he wasnt worried about it but he decided to cash out douglas against holyfield and that would have set up holyfield-tyson before tyson went to prison.