Comments Thread For: Joshua: I'll Fight Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder Without The Belts

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  • turnedup
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    #51
    I don’t wanna hear nothing about AJ beats anyone. Not right now, we have no idea how that eye holds up so don’t go about making fools of yourselves. We’ve seen these injuries change careers overnight.

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    • turnedup
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      #52
      Originally posted by joe strong
      Tony Bellew said exactly what Joshua can’t do or he would be in for a tough night. He said he can’t try to outbox him & that is exactly what he did. He never leaned on him or pushed him around. He just stayed in front of him & never pushed Usyk back against the ropes. He never used his physical advantages & Usyk just stayed in front of him & used his superior boxing skills. He was too fast for Joshua & he exposed that. In my opinion if Fury fights Usyk I think he had little trouble with him. Fury would be d****d all over him & he would use his physical advantages against Usyk. I still want to see Joshua fight Fury & Wilder.
      Y’all must’ve forgot how fast Usyk hooks go ahead and tell the big fella to leave his chin wide open trying to go for a hug. Like Usyk is gonna fight to tysons strengths

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      • Pigeons
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        #53
        Originally posted by techliam

        Joyce vs Takam was the WBO eliminator for the winner of Joshua vs Usyk

        The WBO mandatory has been fulfilled. The IBF mandatory was fulfilled in the Pulev fight, and Povetkin was the last WBA mandatory

        Usyk rematch will be a voluntary fight. I imagine the WBA will install another mandatory after (or allow an Undisputed fight), with the IBF almost certainly mandating a fight mid 2022. The WBO mandatory won’t be until at least late 2022, possibly even the year after
        I don't see mandatories being an issue with the WBA, IBF, or WBO. The WBA has to get their mess between Bryan (regular) and Charr (in recess) sorted. They're not going to let that get in the way of sanctioning fees from Usyk/Joshua II. IBF's #1 contender spot is open and Hrgovic will be boxing in a final eliminator (https://www.boxingscene.com/filip-hr...omoter--160540). He just had a stay busy fight though so that mandatory is still quite a bit away from being settled and ordered. And like you said, Usyk was the WBO mandatory so Joyce is going to have to wait until it's his turn in the rotation. He'll probably fight again before it becomes due as well.

        Now on the WBC side, I don't see how the Fury/Wilder III winner can avoid the Whyte mandatory now since he's the interim champion.

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        • Jack Rivers
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          #54
          Would I watch AJ vs wilder or fury without the belts? Of course! But it the same time, if AJ keeps losing, I'm not going to have interest in a boxer who doesn't fight to his strengths and loses. This loss just showed fury would have won easily if the two of them fought for undisputed. I might even go as far to say wilder would have KOd him with AJs lack of head and movement. He's got some soul searching as he lost that hunger many fights ago.
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          • SN!PER
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            #55
            Wilder vs. AJ is still a highly entertaining, exciting fight.

            Style-wise, Fury vs. AJ is just not a good fight anymore. It's plain as day now that Fury's movement would wreck him.

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            • JimSlim
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              #56
              I think AJ gets Knocked out by either Fury or Wilder. Especially Wilder if Wilder lands a right hand. Joshua's chin seems a bit questionable. Fury has an exceptional chin and I don't see Joshua landing anything that would keep Tyson from dismantling him.

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              • tokon
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                #57
                Originally posted by Smash
                welcome to the world of the B side AJ
                Hahaha, yes the ultimate hypocrites, Joshua and Hearn.

                Imo, the fundamental problem is Joshua's chin/punch resistance - or, more accurately, lack of.

                Him and his camp have no confidence in it, that's why they adopted the tactics they did.
                Last edited by tokon; 09-26-2021, 04:34 PM.

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                • Tecnoworld
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Howitzer78
                  I was predicting a Usyk to knock him out, but he got the job done.
                  It appears that he was asked not to knock aj by his corner. And in fact...please notice that any time aj was about to go down, usyk waited and slowed down.

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                  • Patsfan bri
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                    #59
                    Yes Aj vs fury or wilder are still interesting fights but before it was more of the unknown as to who would win. I know anything can happen but I think most would agree Aj has almost no shot of beating fury and wilder would probably ko him as Aj doesn’t seem to have a good chin.

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                    • Ropeydope
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                      #60
                      I don’t like to kick a man when he’s down, but I did predict last night’s outcome and have been saying for years that AJ wouldn’t stand much of a chance against Wilder nor especially Fury. I only added Wilder to the list after the Ruiz ko. Joshua doesn’t have the head movement to avoid Wilder’s 1-2s for 12 rounds. He pulls straight back. Boxing’s first principal, lateral movement, never straight back. Easy work for Fury, less so but still more than achievable for Wilder.

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