Is Luis Ortiz ever going to fight another PBC fighter?

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  • rickJen
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    #1

    Is Luis Ortiz ever going to fight another PBC fighter?

    Except Wilder?

    Ruiz, Martin, Kownacki, Breazeale, Arreola.
    These are all far better fights than the ones he's been fighting.
    And they have all been availabe to him at many points in time.

    For all this talk about fights being easy to make when
    fighters are in the same house and street, it's not the case here.

    Ortiz chose to become a full-pledge PBC fighter since the Wilder 1 fight.
    I don't think they'll waste another cheap, gimme fight at this point.

    So what's going on inside the PBC Mystery House?
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    #2
    Coppinger said Ruiz is returning later this year against either Ortiz or Martin...I hope it is Ortiz.

    Kownacki is fighting Helenius in a rematch.

    Arreola may be a decent option if Ruiz vs Martin takes place.

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      #3
      Where is FOX, Showtime, PBC in all this?
      These are all premiere enti1t\es with global reach.
      DAZN is nothing in comparison.

      And why are fans expecting only Hearn to make fights for Ortiz?
      This is mind-boggling to an unbiased fan like me and many others.

      Joe Joyce fought on a PBC card 3 years ago and called out Ortiz.
      No offers were made from Haymon, SHO, FOX.

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      • rickJen
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        #4
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Coppinger said Ruiz is returning later this year against either Ortiz or Martin...I hope it is Ortiz.

        Kownacki is fighting Helenius in a rematch.

        Arreola may be a decent option if Ruiz vs Martin takes place.
        Like the first post says, all of these fighters were available for Ortiz
        and not one of them was made. Why is he being left out when
        he's the one with a few fights left and time is running out for him?

        Nobody knows what's going on in the PBC Mystery House.
        Was he offered some of these fights and his team rejected them
        because he's asking for money Haymon can't afford?
        Or is it the other way around? Where is Coppinger in here?

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          #5
          Ortiz only fights PBC fighters.

          He just doesn’t fight the good one unless it’s a title shot.

          Its the same scenario with every PBC heavyweight.

          You don’t have your roster beat on each other. It’s not a good business decision.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Ortiz only fights PBC fighters.

            He just doesn’t fight the good one unless it’s a title shot.

            Its the same scenario with every PBC heavyweight.

            You don’t have your roster beat on each other. It’s not a good business decision.
            You can't make that argument when the guy is on the verge of retiring.
            He might as well retire is what you're saying. I see.

            As mentioned, Ortiz is backed by premiere networks like FOX and Showtime (CBS).
            If he wants title shots that doesn't involve PBC fighters, he needs to tell Haymon
            to at least try and make those fights for him.

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              #7
              He saw what happened with Holyfield and knows guys their ages have to take it easy.

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              • ShaneMosleySr
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                #8
                It doesn’t matter if he’s retiring.

                Its bad business for his promoter.

                Why would promoter set up his top younger guys to potentially lose to Ortiz.

                Originally posted by genrick

                You can't make that argument when the guy is on the verge of retiring.
                He might as well retire is what you're saying. I see.

                As mentioned, Ortiz is backed by premiere networks like FOX and Showtime (CBS).
                If he wants title shots that doesn't involve PBC fighters, he needs to tell Haymon
                to at least try and make those fights for him.

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                • rickJen
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  It doesn’t matter if he’s retiring.

                  Its bad business for his promoter.

                  Why would promoter set up his top younger guys to potentially lose to Ortiz.
                  That's utter nonsense when Wilder became a superstar because of the Ortiz victory.
                  Yeah, that's Deontay Wilder's one and only biggest win.
                  And you're saying these young fighters are sure of losing and there's no chance
                  in hell for them to become Wilder 2, 3, 4. Man you're hilarious.

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                  • ShaneMosleySr
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                    #10
                    Wilder was favored to win.

                    He’s younger, has a huge right hand and was fighting a southpaw.

                    The fight made sense for Wilder and Ortiz.

                    Ortiz wanted a shot, Wilder wanted a name and was expected to win.

                    Ortiz will beat everyone else on that roster, so it doesn’t make sense for anyone else on the PBC roster to fight Ortiz.

                    Originally posted by genrick
                    That's utter nonsense when Wilder became a superstar because of the Ortiz victory.
                    Yeah, that's Deontay Wilder's one and only biggest win.
                    And you're saying these young fighters are sure of losing and there's no chance
                    in hell for them to become Wilder 2, 3, 4. Man you're hilarious.

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