Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Plant, Joshua-Usyk, Crawford-Porter, More

[The D3vil]

I have a question people used to say Mike Tyson would kill Holyfield when he was in his prime but Tyson beat Michael Spinks at 23 he wasn't in his prime. Sugar Ray Leonard beat Hearns and Hearns was 22 he wasn't in his prime. Oscar destroyed Chavez at 23 Chavez was 33 Oscar wasn't in his prime. So why when Mayweather beats Canelo at 36 and Canelo is 23 and weighs almost 20 pounds more than Mayweather way is Mayweather cherry picking when Canelo was begging for the fight and it was the top grossing fight at a time that means that people didn't think he was cherry picking.

People peak at different time.

The '88 Tyson that beat Spinks was Mike Tyson at his peak.

After that, he fires Rooney, goes to jail, and is never the same.

Canelo's peak is today. Canelo has never been better than he is right now.

So, obviously 8 years ago wasn't Canelo's prime.

He arguably lost to Erislandy Lara & Austin Trout around the same time he lost to Floyd. That wasn't the best version of Canelo

As Bread always says, Floyd had the longest prime of any fighter in history. He was closer to his prime at 36 than Canelo was at 23, who wouldn't peak for another 7 or 8 years.

[Georgie Do]

Uysk v AJ went the way I feared it would, well not exactly, Instead of spending 3 rounds measurements up AJ, Olexandor got busy straight away and send a missile straight down the pipe which shook Anthony and set the whole tone of the fight. When you are fighting with a glass chin like Antony, you really need to keep it covered and that was the beginning of the end for Antony, he spend 9 rounds with his right glove glued to his chin and his confidence shot.
A boxing panel of experts were quizzing Uysk on his knockout record on live tv and one of them was Tony Bellew, There is a charming cameo of Uysk and his interpreter smiling and Olexander winking at Tony and saying "YOU". INCREDIBLE Tony must have forgotten that Uysk had taken Tony,s cruiserweight champion belt by a knockout. Talk about being embarrassed. Then Antony hired Uysk as a sparring partner and after a few days fired him on very bad terms because he did not like tbe boxing lessons that Uysh was dumping on him. That was a mistake. From Texas to Ireland, Everyone I knew including me had their 60 to 1 on Uysk.. Olly delivered in Style. It seemed to me that a lot of these so called boxing experts have very short memories.
As for Plant, the guy reminds me of the old fashioned wild west preacher and he only embarrassed himself. During the spat aftermath, I swear that Plant and his buddies were going to make some silly dash to grab Canelo,s belts of the table, Replay it and have a good study and you will see that the Canelo clone with the yellow tea shirt, moving towards Plants guys to protect the belts. Maybe they had some silly McGregor publicity stunt in mind but it did not work. The fight is already over however, Canelo is amused.
"Easy miney " he will say

[Thuglife Nelo]

ShoulderRoll As me others have cited, though Shoulder does it well citing Crawford, as far as “hypocrisy” Breadman doesn’t cite steroids whenever he cites how great RJJ or Toney were…

so it’s obvious these pieces by Stephen Fakewards are simple propaganda pieces no different how Hauser does it.

and Breadman creates a paradox for himself saying he likes Canelo but not his positive tests. Again, cite RJJ or Toney and he’s not 100. In fact he told Boxing Voice he gave RJJ benefit of doubt. Breadman doesn’t mind that he’s an open hater. Maybe Jrock leaving him got him twisted.

and lastly, Breadman tries to approach non regulated GANGSTA-BOXING as a saint. Stephen wants to insinuate others are naive about PEDS, but doesn’t talk about SNAC and Conte.. the same org that helped Jrock, Plant etc…

in the end Canelo stays a winner because the good overpowers the hating and fake propaganda

Bread’s Response: Most fighters are hypocrites. Canelo is being a hypocrite in this situation. But it’s boxing. At the end of the day they have to fight. Canelo is a real fighter if he’s not anything else. He’s mean and he’s a bad ass. I like everything about him except his positive drug test. I can’t get past that.

[Oregonian]

I have a question people used to say Mike Tyson would kill Holyfield when he was in his prime but Tyson beat Michael Spinks at 23 he wasn't in his prime. Sugar Ray Leonard beat Hearns and Hearns was 22 he wasn't in his prime. Oscar destroyed Chavez at 23 Chavez was 33 Oscar wasn't in his prime. So why when Mayweather beats Canelo at 36 and Canelo is 23 and weighs almost 20 pounds more than Mayweather way is Mayweather cherry picking when Canelo was begging for the fight and it was the top grossing fight at a time that means that people didn't think he was cherry picking.

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Truer words have never been spoken.

Canelo begged for the fight so much that he OFFERED to meet Floyd halfway at 152 Ibs. Canelo is the one who came up with the Catchweight. Haters meanwhile accuse Floyd of draining Canelo.,

[Oregonian]

People peak at different time.

The '88 Tyson that beat Spinks was Mike Tyson at his peak.

After that, he fires Rooney, goes to jail, and is never the same. Canelo's peak is today. Canelo has never been better than he is right now.

So, obviously 8 years ago wasn't Canelo's prime.

He arguably lost to Erislandy Lara & Austin Trout around the same time he lost to Floyd. That wasn't the best version of Canelo

As Bread always says, Floyd had the longest prime of any fighter in history. He was closer to his prime at 36 than Canelo was at 23, who wouldn't peak for another 7 or 8 years.

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If today’s Canelo could make 147-154, do you think he beats a 36 year old Floyd?

[Poopdick]

Wilder is doing this fight for money. He aint winning lol

[The D3vil]

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If today’s Canelo could make 147-154, do you think he beats a 36 year old Floyd?

He couldn't make 147-154. It would probably kill him or weight drain him to the point he'd be ineffective.

168 is Canelo at his absolute best.

[Oregonian]

He couldn't make 147-154. It would probably kill him or weight drain him to the point he'd be ineffective.

168 is Canelo at his absolute best.

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My question was purely hypothetical. As much as Canelo has gotten so much better, I don’t think in a P4P argument he beats the Floyd that beat him.