VK and Steroids.

[GranTorino]

Vitali's steroid use

I am not pointing fingers at anyone, and I am unsure whether or not I condone steroid use:

but I have heard some derogatory things about steroid use, coming from people who support Vitali Klitschko.

he is a POSTER BOY for steroid use. He even admitted it.

Obviously I cannot send a link from ********boxing.com

Does this harm his credibility?

You submit a one-sided story like this with the hidden intent of causing trouble.

Congratulations.

If you had read the entire story, you would see that what Vitali admitted was that they were given to him during the olympics AND HE WAS UNAWARE OF WHAT THEY WERE GIVING HIM. HE HAD NO INTENTION OF USING THEM. THEY WERE GIVEN TO HIM WITHOUT HIS KNOWELEDGE.

Stop trying to cause trouble.

[Run]

I'm just saying that he takes enough heat already, IMO partly because of his skin color

I could really care less if he used steroids or not.

My point is, if Shane Mosley openly admitted using steroids, or Fernando Vargas admitted it, they would be shunned by the media.

Somehow....I think you are right about the "skin color" thing.

I just dont think he has taken ANY heat for it.



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[Torino]

I had to take steroids as eye drops for an eye injury once, would that count as cheating?

I think that there is a difference between using steroids to enhance your performance and using it as a healing agent.

[GranTorino]

His credibility can't be harmed if it hasn't alreasy been established. 3 straight victories over 3 flabby un-skilled fighters doesn't make you champion. A victory over Rahman will help to establish a little credibility, but unification is the only way to gain respect on this side of the Atlantic.

As for the 'roids, take the reports with a grain of salt. Everyone in the Northern California knows that the San Francisco Chronicle is tabloid nonsense, but ESPN continues to use their articles concerning the BALCO investigation as if the statements are factual.

I'm sure that The Klitschko brothers have dabbled in 'roids and supplements, but I'm also pretty certain that both guys train hard and haven't been breaking the rules since their arrival to the states.

- SacTown1

You can also extend that quote to say that other professional boxers are just as likely to have (especially heavyweights, David Tua, anyone?) used them as well.

[Run]

You submit a one-sided story like this with the hidden intent of causing trouble.

Congratulations.

If you had read the entire story, you would see that what Vitali admitted was that they were given to him during the olympics AND HE WAS UNAWARE OF WHAT THEY WERE GIVING HIM. HE HAD NO INTENTION OF USING THEM. THEY WERE GIVEN TO HIM WITHOUT HIS KNOWELEDGE.

Stop trying to cause trouble.

Barry Bonds' defense against steroid allegations was very similar to your "caps-lock" fury.

How could I be causing trouble, when I am merely speculating on his KNOWN steroid use.

I hate to break the news to you. Your boy used Roids.



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[GranTorino]

Apparently, it has been a while since he quit against Byrd.

People still think of him as "quitali".

Really? What people? You are the first one I have heard use that term.

[Run]

I had to take steroids as eye drops for an eye injury once, would that count as cheating?

I think that there is a difference between using steroids to enhance your performance and using it as a healing agent.

I could care less if he "cheated".

I am more interested in the principal of the matter.

Why does he recieve the benefit of the doubt; regarding his use.

Why has the media circled Vargas and not Vitali. Thats all.

I cant remember a time when any boxing announcer discussed this

matter. It seems like a conspiracy to me.



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[GranTorino]

Barry Bonds' defense against steroid allegations was very similar to your "caps-lock" fury.

How could I be causing trouble, when I am merely speculating on his KNOWN steroid use.

I hate to break the news to you. Your boy used Roids.

Because you say things like "He is the poster boy for steroid use" or some such nonsense. You already have your mind made up, and just want to spread that opinion in the thinly veiled guise of false objectivity.

If you go to the doctor and he gives you somethign, you trust him to give you the right thing. If he did not, you would not be at fault, now would you?

Incidentally, the "caps lock fury" was for your benefit, as you apparently have a hard time hearing, or digesting actual logic, I thought I would make it easy for you.

[GranTorino]

I could care less if he "cheated".

I am more interested in the principal of the matter.

Why does he recieve the benefit of the doubt; regarding his use.

Why has the media circled Vargas and not Vitali. Thats all.

I cant remember a time when any boxing announcer discussed this

matter. It seems like a conspiracy to me.

Don't forget Mayweather. They jumped him, too. And they were wrong. You should know better than to do anything more than take what the media says with a grain of salt.

[Torino]

Hey Gran Torino,

Why the name Gran Torino?