Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Calls Out Winner Of Shakur Stevenson Vs. Jamel Herring For Next Fight

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Boxfan83
    The Coach
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Feb 2015
    • 15815
    • 2,067
    • 719
    • 160,371

    #31
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
    it’s not a prejudiced opinion, it’s based on what’s known and seen on here and other platforms. If you’re not smart enough to see the obvious bias of people who defend cheaters, bad decisions and other corrupt actions and understand that they mainly do so because of a false need to try and display some delusional nationalism, then keep living in your gullible fantasy world.
    You didnt make your opinion based on fans defending him of cheating doe. You brought up 2 different Nationalities and pretty much made an assumption of all based on what you see on "platforms," so if thats not prejudice, than I guess you are correct, I am not too smart.

    Anyways man, as far as boxing and drug cheats, I think the hypocrisy in this is all around. Imo, it seems like VADA is more strenuous than others but lets not act like every Nation of boxers are all VADA tested. How many of your favorite fighters retired or present tested all the way through VADA?

    I said it years ago, VADAs hard to beat because Conte being criminal minded stays ahead of the game.

    Comment

    • Jab jab boom
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Feb 2018
      • 11147
      • 4,834
      • 296
      • 118,331

      #32
      Originally posted by Boxfan83

      You didnt make your opinion based on fans defending him of cheating doe. You brought up 2 different Nationalities and pretty much made an assumption of all based on what you see on "platforms," so if thats not prejudice, than I guess you are correct, I am not too smart.

      Anyways man, as far as boxing and drug cheats, I think the hypocrisy in this is all around. Imo, it seems like VADA is more strenuous than others but lets not act like every Nation of boxers are all VADA tested. How many of your favorite fighters retired or present tested all the way through VADA?

      I said it years ago, VADAs hard to beat because Conte being criminal minded stays ahead of the game.
      you don’t know what I based my opinion on. It was someone else who said Mexican Americans speaking for Mexicans is like white Americans speaking for people from Ireland. I just mentioned the reasoning why Mexican Americans go above and beyond to defend Mexican fighters while actual Mexicans are more willing to be objective even if it’s against their own. So Mexican American fans defending multiple Mexicans cheating is partially why I stated what I did. Overall, testing in boxing is a joke, I’m tired of the lame excuses from the cheaters and think fans who try to defend them just because they think they’re being loyal to a country they’re not even from us even more of a joke.

      Comment

      • richardt
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Nov 2007
        • 22066
        • 2,604
        • 202
        • 77,067

        #33
        From what I saw the other night, I think Valdez follows Stevenson around and won't have many opportunities to cut off the ring and gets outpointed by Stevenson. Just my observation. The Berchelt fight made me think that Valdez would rake Stevenson through hell but the other night showed me Stevenson would time Valdez perfectly and quite often.
        Last edited by richardt; 09-12-2021, 06:33 PM.

        Comment

        • Corelone
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Sep 2009
          • 13312
          • 1,780
          • 849
          • 66,332

          #34
          I funned Shakur for jumping back when Valdez beat Belchert. I jumped on the Valdez fan train when he beat Quigg. At least vs Quigg he was the smaller guy. The way he was caught, and what he was caught with, shade all of that. Now, I don't blame Shakur for giving him the dead lamp, side eye. Valdez is shilling for the WBC "clean" program while he abuses it, he got caught with something in his system, might be accidental, but how did he get it out? No accidents there.
          Last edited by Corelone; 09-12-2021, 06:55 PM.

          Comment

          • Nightfall
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Dec 2013
            • 12275
            • 2,756
            • 12
            • 47,311

            #35
            The clenelo PED lieutenant Valdez trying to take the heat off from getting caught and his lackluster performance Friday with many saying that he lost by calling out Stevenson. He has ducked already and really don’t want that Stevenson smoke. All reynoso fighters need to be tested every other day

            Comment

            • Wacked_Out
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Jan 2021
              • 1650
              • 607
              • 1,197
              • 1,725

              #36
              Hes shown me a lot but Valdez might not be able to beat Stevenson or Herring.
              BUT
              I think Conceicao beats BOTH Stevenson and Herring for sure. Very Bad style matchup for Stevenson man. Also a bad matchup and not a little person for Herring.
              Last edited by Wacked_Out; 09-12-2021, 09:15 PM.

              Comment

              • The Big Dunn
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Sep 2009
                • 69296
                • 9,490
                • 7,837
                • 287,568

                #37
                Originally posted by T.M.T
                The clenelo PED lieutenant Valdez trying to take the heat off from getting caught and his lackluster performance Friday with many saying that he lost by calling out Stevenson. He has ducked already and really don’t want that Stevenson smoke. All reynoso fighters need to be tested every other day
                Agree. I don’t think he ducked as much as Arum gave him a win this past Friday and helped him cheat.

                Let’s hope he doesn’t vacate the belt to move up all the sudden if Shakur wins.

                Comment

                • theface07
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3851
                  • 476
                  • 45
                  • 49,777

                  #38
                  Dude was juicing just like Clenelo to get a weight advantage and he STILL had problems making weight and he STILL looked like crap against what should have been an overmatched opponent in Conceicao. What a joke boxing has become. The Clenelo Clan controls the game. They can do whatever they want and get away with it. Shame on boxing, shame on the WBC, and everyone else who allowed this travesty to take place.
                  Also shame on Mark Krigel for downplaying the positive test. You are now clearly a soulless, company man Mark. Go away forever.

                  Comment

                  • Smash
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14786
                    • 6,130
                    • 7,579
                    • 21,172

                    #39
                    valdez should be quiet for a while and go have a nice cup of tea

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP