Comments Thread For: Arum Plans To Announce Crawford vs. Porter For Nov. 20 At Mandalay Bay In Las Vegas

[Ropeydope]

Horn is nowhere near Porter. Not close.

Porter is effective against everyone.

Horn was effective against fighters that took him lightly.

Crawford was smart enough to fake a hand injury a week before the fight, throwing off Horn's camp timing, fighting in America vs. Australia, and making sure to choose a ref that was quick to stop fights. Manny wasn't smart enough to make those decisions.


Ultimately Porter is a 9, Horn is a 5. It's not close.

I’m not making a case for Horn and Porter’s record or accomplishments being that similar, but my comparison stands. They are both bruisers who lack the timing, footwork and overall boxing acumen of the likes of Crawford. All these PBC fighters are famous for fighting each other, but we all saw what Manny did to Thurman, who beat them all, and Horn, for example, gave Manny all that he could handle, whether or not you agree with that decision. I totally disagree with your overly complex view do how Crawford vs Horn went down. The ref saved him. Good stoppage after a total drubbing.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree and stay tuned for the fight in November.
I’m picking Crawford by TKO or lopsided UD.

[Greenfield02]

What’s even funnier is your desperation to constantly bring up Canelo even in a post that has nothing to do with him. Difference is, Porter has proven his status by giving top fighters in their primes all they can handle, winning some and in other cases losing decisions many think he could’ve won. Now who exactly did guys like Smith, Yidilgrim, and Saunders face/beat that you were impressed with going into the fights with canelo?

Mmm, let me think, Smith beat every SMW in that SMW tournament, remember that, that's why he was widely known as the top dog before Canelo, Saunders is way better than anyone Crawford has fought, Yildrim, was as good as Washed up Brook, or Benavides, remember him, yeah Crawford couldn't even knock him out. You like to bring up fighters to fit your narrative, because you can't mention the quality of opponents Canelo has fought, let me think, Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Trout, GGG, Jacobs, Kovalev, people talk sh** on Kovalev because he was older, but I would love to see Crawford jump two weight divisions and fight old man GGG, see how that goes for him, Just name one, just one opponent Crawford has faced that even comes close to those guys mentioned, and if you say blown up featherweight Gamboa I'll slap you right out your mom's basement.... I'll wait.

[Gunitsmith]

Boxing has about ruined itself with pointless fights or fights no one is interested in. 20 years ago a Jake Paul wouldn't have made an untelevised undercard appearance. Now he headlines an event while pro boxers take a backseat. It's truly pathetic.

I have followed the sport closely for decades and I am about to let it go. I have held on as long as I have because it is the last sport I keep up with. I have already given up on NFL,NBA,NCAA due to their politics and crookedness. I know boxing is as crooked as it comes,but when two equally matched fighters get it on in the ring it is the most compelling sport there is imop. But that is happening less and less frequently. It has become one resume builder after another card after card. Most of the "champions" are the ones who can cut the most weight. Then on fight night they look like giants compared to their challenger. There is an occasional upset,but you have to get extremely lucky to catch one. I realize these guys put their lives on the line to entertain,but there is no way a Caleb Plant is worth 10 mil or Canelo worth 40 mil to fight him. Plant has fought no one since winning his belt,but he deserves a 10 mil payday? Its ridiculous.

As far as Porter / Crawford,it is another pointless fight that Porter will lose unless the fix is in. IF Porter had some power to go with his "style",he may have a puncher's chance. But he does not and he isn't knocking Crawford out. Who wants to pay to watch him fight?

A fight that would really excite fans and generate buzz would be Crawford / Ortz. Other than Spence,there really isn't anyone out there. That fight would sell.
Folks talk about Crawford not selling,but there has to be a compelling match up for it to sell. I cannot think of one decent fight he has been in since he was named p4p.
Ortiz would challenge him and shows no fear.

Spence / Crawford has reached its expiration date,and I could care less about that one now. It should have happened two or three years ago. Boxing ruined it. A fight that could have generated 40-50 mil and they let it go by the wayside over A side B side bs. Each fighter could have made 10-15 mil and they *****footed it away.
Instead of fighting each other they fight Amir Khan and Mikey Garcia.One was washed up,the other a blown up lightweight. There is no logical sense to it.

[wildman]

I just can't get interested in this fight. Maybe it isn't fair, but I tend to view Porter as something of a retread. Spence or Ugas are the only opponents at welterweight for Crawford that interest me. Not sure either wants to know. The politics of boxing have really dampened my interest in a sport that I have followed religiously since 1975.

[Jab jab boom]

Mmm, let me think, Smith beat every SMW in that SMW tournament, remember that, that's why he was widely known as the top dog before Canelo, Saunders is way better than anyone Crawford has fought, Yildrim, was as good as Washed up Brook, or Benavides, remember him, yeah Crawford couldn't even knock him out. You like to bring up fighters to fit your narrative, because you can't mention the quality of opponents Canelo has fought, let me think, Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Trout, GGG, Jacobs, Kovalev, people talk sh** on Kovalev because he was older, but I would love to see Crawford jump two weight divisions and fight old man GGG, see how that goes for him, Just name one, just one opponent Crawford has faced that even comes close to those guys mentioned, and if you say blown up featherweight Gamboa I'll slap you right out your mom's basement.... I'll wait.

you’re deviating from the point and trying to make up your own narrative. WHO did smith, Yidilgrim, and Saunders face? Don’t give me they were at the top of their weak ass division. Give me some names. Tell me someone they faced that may have been considered a prime elite fighter prior to facing canelo. Someone that was in some p4p talk at any time. I mentioned how people are going to minimize Porter as a win for Crawford and you said it’s the same thing I do with canelo. So you’re supposed to be comparing how smith, Yidilgrim, and Saunders stack up to Porter. Not going on another one of your typical feminine rants and your fake tough guy key board warrior threats of who you’d smack. You wouldn’t smack anyone, you’d be beaten to a pulp while you pissed your panties.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I’m not making a case for Horn and Porter’s record or accomplishments being that similar, but my comparison stands. They are both bruisers who lack the timing, footwork and overall boxing acumen of the likes of Crawford. All these PBC fighters are famous for fighting each other, but we all saw what Manny did to Thurman, who beat them all, and Horn, for example, gave Manny all that he could handle, whether or not you agree with that decision. I totally disagree with your overly complex view do how Crawford vs Horn went down. The ref saved him. Good stoppage after a total drubbing.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree and stay tuned for the fight in November.
I’m picking Crawford by TKO or lopsided UD.

You need to go back and watch that fight - the fight where Crawford (according to him) "Beat The Man Who Beat The Man".

The end sequence is Crawford windmilling, lands one punch, Horn dodges the rest. Trigger ref jumps in. Shades of Herrera/Hinojosa.

Compare that performance with what Zerafa did. It's not close.

Crawford isn't dominating Shawn Porter. You're underestimating him. That's going to get your guy exposed.

[Slip jab]

I recall when Pac was with TR and his contract was almost up with TR. Pac was disgustingly limited in opposition. It was sickening. I just wanna highlight the similarities that Crawford is in right now.
Pac left TR but that WBO belt didn't. Horn controversially"wins" n Crawford gets horn immediately after n stopped horn. Yes..Arum robbed Pac for even thinking about leaving.
Bringing this up because I think Crawford will get robbed. I'm a fan first but I can't forget about the politics of this sport. So before assessing this fight, one I think Crawford wins. I won't ignore that this is Arum involved

[-Kev-]

Wow a good fight being announced?

What is going on here?

This is not an exhibition fight between former MMA fighters and senior citizen former boxers?

This is not a fight between Youtubers?

I do not understand.

This is a fight between Ring ranked #2 WW vs Ring ranked #4 WW. Something is wrong here. This is a real fight between in-prime, top 10 pro boxers.

Someone pinch me.

[Rbs3rd]

Keith Thurman is a compulsive liar.

Im not sure keith thurman even said that.

[mexiFistology]

Well, Arum just said this



It's like, WTF do you mean "hopefully"?

Is Crawford that terrified of smoke that even his own damn promoter isn't sure he can convince the guy to take a top level fight?

And NSB defends this!

Big facts. Terrence is comfortable beating class c fighters for pennies