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  • #11
    Originally posted by JohnnyCan View Post
    Trace amounts don’t equal PEDS. And he weighed exactly at the 130# limit. Oscar Valdez is one of the classiest fighters out there. I have no doubt he didn’t take any thing illegal and that was backed up by the rules of using in a competition, which he hasn’t done. Get over it already and enjoy a good fight tomorrow.
    They only found a trace amount of another man's semen on your left buttock. Proves nothing!!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
      Spoiler alert. Valdez will easily make weight because he was allowed to take banned substances to do so.
      I mean he got popped for a stimulant (caffeine) not a diuretic but whatever you all say what he took was no different than a pre-workout in terms of help. Victor Conte offers a product through SNAC called expedite that contains caffeine anhydrous which is basically pure dehydrated caffeine (Central Nervous Stimulant). Caffeine anhydrous is becoming more popular as a supplement for weight loss and improved athletic performance. So don't you all forget that at one point caffeine was considered a banned substance in the Olympics and it wasn't removed from the banned list until the early 2000's. So what you all are agreeing with is that since the rules changed and now allow it it's no longer considered a PED right? Even though it allows for improved athletic performance right? If they start banning Caffeine anhydrous would that make everyone in the SNAC squad dopers?

      All I'm saying is it is very easy for something to be added to a list and now everybody is doping this same thing happened with Meldonium in Russia it wasn't added until a few years ago so you mean to tell me everyone who used it before the ban was ok but once that pen hit the paper they all became drug cheats? Unless it's an Anabolic (Tyson Fury, Fernando Vargas, Andre Berto, Kid Galahad, James Toney) HGH (Evan Fields, Jarrell Miller, Yuriorkis Gamboa) TRT (Mickey Bey, Lamont Peterson) or EPO (Shane Mosley - Victor Conte Supplied and recently Jean Pascal) Can't remember too many boxers testing positive for this in recent times probably because it rarely gets tested for even though it's the worst of the entire bunch. If it's not one of these then it doesn't really matter to me there are so many "legal" supplements and stimulants that will serve as a preworkout and aid just as much as ones that have been banned.

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      • #13


        The only legit world-title contest in this Toprank event.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
          I mean he got popped for a stimulant (caffeine) not a diuretic but whatever you all say what he took was no different than a pre-workout in terms of help. Victor Conte offers a product through SNAC called expedite that contains caffeine anhydrous which is basically pure dehydrated caffeine (Central Nervous Stimulant). Caffeine anhydrous is becoming more popular as a supplement for weight loss and improved athletic performance. So don't you all forget that at one point caffeine was considered a banned substance in the Olympics and it wasn't removed from the banned list until the early 2000's. So what you all are agreeing with is that since the rules changed and now allow it it's no longer considered a PED right? Even though it allows for improved athletic performance right? If they start banning Caffeine anhydrous would that make everyone in the SNAC squad dopers?

          All I'm saying is it is very easy for something to be added to a list and now everybody is doping this same thing happened with Meldonium in Russia it wasn't added until a few years ago so you mean to tell me everyone who used it before the ban was ok but once that pen hit the paper they all became drug cheats? Unless it's an Anabolic (Tyson Fury, Fernando Vargas, Andre Berto, Kid Galahad, James Toney) HGH (Evan Fields, Jarrell Miller, Yuriorkis Gamboa) TRT (Mickey Bey, Lamont Peterson) or EPO (Shane Mosley - Victor Conte Supplied and recently Jean Pascal) Can't remember too many boxers testing positive for this in recent times probably because it rarely gets tested for even though it's the worst of the entire bunch. If it's not one of these then it doesn't really matter to me there are so many "legal" supplements and stimulants that will serve as a preworkout and aid just as much as ones that have been banned.
          interesting. Here’s conte’s take on the substance. Just check the first 2 min. https://********/tTr1rQguspI

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          • #15
            Don't know what genius decided to book an outdoor venue for this, but I'm not looking forward to sitting in 100 degree heat to watch this

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              interesting. Here’s conte’s take on the substance. Just check the first 2 min. https://********/tTr1rQguspI
              I had already seen that interview I hold nothing Conte says in high regard he is tied in with VADA anyways. All I can say is that replace Phentremine with Caffeine when it comes to everything he said and you be the judge.

              Caffeine in high doses raises your blood level of epinephrine. Epinephrine is also known as adrenalin. In pure forms, epinephrine can increase blood pressure, increase the contractility or force of the heart, and mildly increase the heart rate.

              Caffeine augments endothelium-dependent vasodilation due to increased nitric oxide production. Then, caffeine might lead to increased tissue blood flow and oxygen supply to the exercising muscle during exercise.

              A number of studies have shown significant performance increases in various endurance disciplines following caffeine ingestion. In one study, elite runners improved their time in a treadmill run to exhaustion by 1.9% with caffeine. Caffeine boosted time to exhaustion in a cycling test by 15 minutes in another study.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JohnnyCan View Post
                Trace amounts don’t equal PEDS. And he weighed exactly at the 130# limit. Oscar Valdez is one of the classiest fighters out there. I have no doubt he didn’t take any thing illegal and that was backed up by the rules of using in a competition, which he hasn’t done. Get over it already and enjoy a good fight tomorrow.
                I will enjoy the fight; however, I have to disagree with you, a fighter should know what he/she puts into their bodies and if there is a banned substance in your system, regardless of the amount, that fighter should be reprimanded.

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