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    When Russian Boxing Will Rival Mexican Boxing

    Legend has it the Soviets taught Cubans how to box

    and it was a Cuban who then introduced boxing to Mexico

    Russia is a tough country filled with strong people.

    Less soy whites among their population

    and Russia has respectable boxing technology

    the conditions are harsh enough to make fighters but not Africa ****** where people are focused entirely on survival with no time for boxing training
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    #2
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    Legend has it the Soviets taught Cubans how to box

    and it was a Cuban who then introduced boxing to Mexico

    Russia is a tough country filled with strong people.

    Less soy whites among their population

    and Russia has respectable boxing technology

    the conditions are harsh enough to make fighters but not Africa ****** where people are focused entirely on survival with no time for boxing training
    The Cuban ammy program was heavily influenced by the Soviet Ammys but Cuba had a rich history of prizefighting well before the revolution and the huge popularity of Mexican boxing is reputed to have come from the revolutionary period when Pancho Villa staging a world championship match between Willard and Johnson as a source of revenue.

    The Mexican Revolution also caused boxing to spread into Mexico. In 1914, Pancho Villa, who wished to add to his war chest, sought to stage a world title fight in Ciudad Juárez between Jack Johnson and Jess Willard. Johnson, the first African American heavyweight champion, lived in self-exile after a racially-motivated jury convicted him of violating the Mann Act. Because of his conviction, Johnson could not travel to the Mexican border town through the United States. Because Villa’s foe, Venustiano Carranza, controlled the Mexican coastlines, promoters moved the fight from Ciudad Juárez to Cuba. During his exile, Johnson lived and boxed across Latin America until the Mexican government welcomed his as a guest in 1919. Johnson lived in Mexico until 1920 when revolutionary violence forced him to surrender to United States authorities.

    After the revolution, boxing’s popularity increased. The Mexican government used sports to promote the country’s stability and, implicitly, the success of its revolution. In the 1920s, Mexico took part in international sports competitions as a way of gaining respectability. By the mid-1930s, the first so-called “golden age” of Mexican boxing (a term, to my knowledge, coined by historian Stephen D. Allen) had begun to unfold in Mexico City. During this time, Mexican boxing made inroads in the United States, again, partly as a result of the Mexican Revolution, which led to the greatest migration of Mexicans into the United States. But not until the 1960s did the second golden age of Mexican boxing flourish, this time, in Los Angeles.
    Ruusia has a great tradition in amateur boxing but with the decline in Ammy funding following the collapse of the Soviets we're seeing a gradual change as more kids are turning pro younger and it remains to be seen what sort of a force Russia will be in years to come although the central Asian nations are produceing a steady stream of very good talent.

    Be nice to see the African nations find themselves in a postion to really get behind boxing but whilst they do occasionally produce some great individual fighters with unque skillsets they tend to be erratic and sporadic, the raw talent is there but the funding and facilities just ain't.

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      #3
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
      Legend has it the Soviets taught Cubans how to box

      and it was a Cuban who then introduced boxing to Mexico

      Russia is a tough country filled with strong people.

      Less soy whites among their population

      and Russia has respectable boxing technology

      the conditions are harsh enough to make fighters but not Africa ****** where people are focused entirely on survival with no time for boxing training
      What’s a soy white?

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        #4
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        What’s a soy white?
        Google up Mark Zuckerberg

        the kind of white who’d break his own wrist throwing one punch and doesn’t tell women to shut up

        Russia has a smaller % of those among its population than the US

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          #5
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba

          The Cuban ammy program was heavily influenced by the Soviet Ammys but Cuba had a rich history of prizefighting well before the revolution and the huge popularity of Mexican boxing is reputed to have come from the revolutionary period when Pancho Villa staging a world championship match between Willard and Johnson as a source of revenue.



          Ruusia has a great tradition in amateur boxing but with the decline in Ammy funding following the collapse of the Soviets we're seeing a gradual change as more kids are turning pro younger and it remains to be seen what sort of a force Russia will be in years to come although the central Asian nations are produceing a steady stream of very good talent.

          Be nice to see the African nations find themselves in a postion to really get behind boxing but whilst they do occasionally produce some great individual fighters with unque skillsets they tend to be erratic and sporadic, the raw talent is there but the funding and facilities just ain't.
          A focused Africa would be lethal

          west African bbc genetics are good for boxing

          explosive fighters

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            #6
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

            and doesn’t tell women to shut up

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              #7
              Originally posted by Citizen Koba

              The Cuban ammy program was heavily influenced by the Soviet Ammys but Cuba had a rich history of prizefighting well before the revolution and the huge popularity of Mexican boxing is reputed to have come from the revolutionary period when Pancho Villa staging a world championship match between Willard and Johnson as a source of revenue.
              I was going to point out the same historical error in the narrative as well.

              Kid Chocolate, Kid Gavilan, Luis "Feo" Rodriguez, Benny "Kid" Paret were all Cubans who learned how to box long before any Soviets came along.

              As far as Mexican boxing..guys like Kid Azteca and the great bantamweight Manuel Ortiz didn't learn from no Cubans.

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                #8
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

                Google up Mark Zuckerberg

                the kind of white who’d break his own wrist throwing one punch and doesn’t tell women to shut up

                Russia has a smaller % of those among its population than the US
                So you're talking about ***s then

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  A focused Africa would be lethal

                  west African bbc genetics are good for boxing

                  explosive fighters
                  It’s a complete generalisation but I always get the feeling African fighters possess the physical attributes but lack the mental attributes to become elite fighters.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    It’s a complete generalisation but I always get the feeling African fighters possess the physical attributes but lack the mental attributes to become elite fighters.
                    What are these mental qualities?

                    did the great Ghana Joshua Clottey turn you off after he blew it in most his big fights

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