Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceicao Officially Sanctioned By The WBC

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  • Lance98
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    #41
    Funny thing is that wbc uses vada as a clean boxing program, yet the wbc fraud sulaiman says it's like downing 3 redbulls and downplayed the fact that it is a PED. What a load of bull...t

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    • Willowthewisp
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      #42
      This is painfully disappointing. Shame on Valdez and his team, but shame on the WBC for pretending to care about PEDs in the first place. I was really looking forward to watching this but there's no way in going to give them another viewer.

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      • Monty Fisto
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        #43
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        I honestly thought it was common knowledge among boxing fans. Basically, most fighters have to drain themselves down to a weight that is often times 15-20 plus pounds below their walk around weight. So all throughout training camp they’re watching their diets, training in sauna suits, doing different forms of cardio to drop weight, they often starve themselves especially the days leading into a fight, and that will often impact their stamina and durability during a fight. That’s why many of them look drawn at a weigh in and then gain so much weight the next day. If you take a substance that helps so that you don’t have to experience that to the same extent as your opponent, you can focus more on specific boxing training and not weight cutting as much, it will improve your stamina , durability and overall performance. So yes, it gives you an unfair advantage despite not being a drug that aims to make you faster or stronger.
        I don't agree with this, unless you are talking some kind of peace of mind advantage.

        If starving yourself 15 lbs below your walk around weight drains your strength x amount, that is going to be the same whether you drain via conventional methods or via taking an appetite supressant. The physiological affect of that calorific deficit will be the same no matter what. The advantage, I suppose, is if you simply do not have the will to make weight -- which is where the appetite suppressant would come in.

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        • ShoulderRoll
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ropeydope
          Trace amounts of diuretic out of cycle don’t amount to a crime of the century. All this ill informed virtue signaling is unbecoming of a group of supposed boxing fans. What the **** do you ****s think you’re watching. Smfh
          Valdez failed a VADA drug test under the WBC's Clean Boxing Program.

          If the WBC isn't going to penalize him for it then that program is worthless.

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          • Jab jab boom
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            #45
            Originally posted by Monty Fisto

            I don't agree with this, unless you are talking some kind of peace of mind advantage.

            If starving yourself 15 lbs below your walk around weight drains your strength x amount, that is going to be the same whether you drain via conventional methods or via taking an appetite supressant. The physiological affect of that calorific deficit will be the same no matter what. The advantage, I suppose, is if you simply do not have the will to make weight -- which is where the appetite suppressant would come in.
            there’s a reason it’s illegal and it’s because it makes the weight loss process easier. Not sure if you’ve ever seen a boxer during an actual camp trying to make weight but it’s no fun, so minimizing taking a drug that helps with that process is honestly gullible.

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #46
              Originally posted by Corelone

              I disagree on the lightweight punishments. Be a representative for the WBC? Fetch and beg, roll over? Be a pet? All he has to do is swallow his pride.
              Side effects of phentamine include impotence, changes in libido, facial swelling, trouble urinating, nausea, constipation, cramps, hallucinations and psychotic episodes. In exchange for supressing your appetite.

              And you think making some appearances where he gets announced as an WBC ambassador is going to be a problem for him?

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              • Ajvar
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                #47
                This is when I drop following boxing. I was mulling the idea with WBA tonns of bells and corrupt decisions but now I see there is no point of investing my time and powers into this dump.

                I am back to being happy causal who watched boxing when there is a Super fight happening or when my fellow citizen is fighting...

                Good bye.

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                • Corelone
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Monty Fisto

                  Side effects of phentamine include impotence, changes in libido, facial swelling, trouble urinating, nausea, constipation, cramps, hallucinations and psychotic episodes. In exchange for supressing your appetite.

                  And you think making some appearances where he gets announced as an WBC ambassador is going to be a problem for him?
                  All those adverse effects happen in private. Getting exibited as a flunky is a whole different ball game. Valdez claims innocence, but accepts the consequences? Not guilty, but put me in jail anyway? He's going to get booed, and believe me, he'd rather get KOd.

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