Comments Thread For: Ugas On Pacquiao Post-Fight Excuses: I Admire Him And Respect His Opinion

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  • Boxfan83
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    #11
    Pac shouldve never fought this dude without a full training camp. I wouldnt be surprised if Ugas had a full training camp for Pac. And this leg cramp excuse is crap, Ugas Jab is what kept Manny from using his legs. Manny dont have 28yo legs but his legs arent shot. If anything the layoff was Mannys biggest issue.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #12
      Originally posted by factsarenice
      The Athletic report manufactured an argument that never existed to gain relevance for a site that barley noticed boxing until last week.

      Should Manny have started his statement with the usual "Ugas is a great fighter" and then go on to state the obvious, "I had no legs"? Maybe! That said, I suspect the Athletics crew had always intended to create controversy to get themeslves noticed within the boxing world and it worked...people will visit the site and that was always the point.

      Lastly, Ugas response was all class and smart. Ugas knows the controversy is manufactured but more importantly he also knows the lotto ticket is still a rematch with Manny.
      I think had he said, "Floyd was the better man last night, and I hope to have a rematch..." Manny would've had that rematch. Add to that, if he had not had the shoulder excuse (which was a bigger story, which lead to Hauser's story, etc.) his leg cramp excuse would not be a story now. The media is showing a pattern, and that's what they do! I'm disappointed that Manny fell for it. He's a professional politician, so I expect him to know these things by now.

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      • The tucker
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Conundrum

        Pacquiao & Wilder are two very different types of fighters with very different status levels in the sport. One is a legend with multiple notable victories, multiple world titles and a Hall Of Famer. The other.... well.... lol. Notable victories in his career are few and far between, and he was battered by his most notable opponent (by far) that he ever faced.

        so yeah, two very different types of fighter to say the least hahaha
        At the end of the day they both make excuses lol

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        • Oldskoolg
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Cong**** to Ugas for taking the high road here As diehard boxing fans we know how it goes when Manny loses- something will be blamed.

          Socks, movement, leg cramps, shoulder. Always something.

          No sense in complaining. Just take the win and move on.
          Bingo. He didn’t allow himself to be dragged down and into an absurd sop****ric back and forth regarding excuses. He beat manny up. Manny looked terrible from his battle wounds and he was outclassed by someone who thoroughly outboxed him. Manny does always have an excuse

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            #15
            Originally posted by The tucker

            At the end of the day they both make excuses lol
            Someone give that man a cigar

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            • madsweeney
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              I think had he said, "Floyd was the better man last night, and I hope to have a rematch..." Manny would've had that rematch. Add to that, if he had not had the shoulder excuse (which was a bigger story, which lead to Hauser's story, etc.) his leg cramp excuse would not be a story now. The media is showing a pattern, and that's what they do! I'm disappointed that Manny fell for it. He's a professional politician, so I expect him to know these things by now.
              Lets be real, these guys are the upper echelon of competitors, expecting them to gracefully take a loss without any comment/rationalization is a bit absurd.

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              • Mario040481
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                #17
                I always wonder when I am reading articles quoting fighters who are speaking through interpreters, just how accurate everything being written is. Are all the little oddball nuances of the quoted fighters language understood by the interpreter? Is the writer just going of of someone else's interview and we're essentially reading a thirdhand (or much more) account with this new author's opinions thrown in? This IS boxing journalism and it is what it is. Anyway, if everything in this interview is on the up and up, and it likely is, than super awesome on Ugas handling everything with a humble class not often seen at the higher levels of the sport. Lot's of people are out there tearing apart and devaluing his achievement and it wouldn't be surprising for someone in his situation to hear excuses coming from the other side and to say "Eff this noise!" and do some serious venting but no, still being classy. Much respect. As for Manny, if the writing/articles that came out post the majority of his losses that occurred AFTER he began fighting in the States (I cannot speak to prior, I have never read that and won't pretend to know) was accurate, and I imagine it was, then wow, he's like most fighters! Dude don't lose gracefully. Nothing worth hanging the guy over.

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                • Boxing56
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                  #18
                  Class act. Really dissapointed with Manny with some of the comments he's made. Give Ugas his respect.

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                  • madsweeney
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mario040481
                    I always wonder when I am reading articles quoting fighters who are speaking through interpreters, just how accurate everything being written is. Are all the little oddball nuances of the quoted fighters language understood by the interpreter? Is the writer just going of of someone else's interview and we're essentially reading a thirdhand (or much more) account with this new author's opinions thrown in? This IS boxing journalism and it is what it is. Anyway, if everything in this interview is on the up and up, and it likely is, than super awesome on Ugas handling everything with a humble class not often seen at the higher levels of the sport. Lot's of people are out there tearing apart and devaluing his achievement and it wouldn't be surprising for someone in his situation to hear excuses coming from the other side and to say "Eff this noise!" and do some serious venting but no, still being classy. Much respect. As for Manny, if the writing/articles that came out post the majority of his losses that occurred AFTER he began fighting in the States (I cannot speak to prior, I have never read that and won't pretend to know) was accurate, and I imagine it was, then wow, he's like most fighters! Dude don't lose gracefully. Nothing worth hanging the guy over.
                    There is lots lost in translation and how articles are written. The interview, in tagalog is not as **** talking as this headline makes it out to be, more him blaming his legs not letting him do what he knew he needed to. He did say “I will think about it because I can’t believe that one of the easiest opponents I ever faced did that,” but its more disbelief/criticizm in his performance than an insult to Ugas.
                    Last edited by madsweeney; 08-26-2021, 10:35 AM.

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                    • Liondw
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                      #20
                      It was late notice for Ugas too. He went from prepping for Fabian Maidana to a living legend in Pacquiao.

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