Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC): The Joke Is the WBC

[BoxingIsGreat]

Look at my sig, screw all the belts and all the belt orgs deserve a middle finger. They are ruining boxing for even the rookies and casuals, along with the promoters. I used to know the alphabet orgs' rules and how these belts worked, when they had one champ per division per belt org. That was 4 champs per division. They were too much. I couldn't tell my friends (I could) who the best was in a particular division. I never acknowledged the belt orgs for over 20 years since. Then add all the extra belts thereafter. They all suck.

My beef is with the WBC and the ABC turning a blind eye to some of the biggest crooks in boxing, like Jose Sulaiman, a fat POS. He makes rules on the fly. He makes Mendoza look like a baby play.

My question for the ABC is: Who is the real WBC champ at 135, Haney or Lopez? Everyone wonders about it. To me, it's clear it's Haney. Sulaiman says it's Lopez. Can the ABC inquire into the status of the BOGUS franchise POS, please? What is it?

Check the corruption between the WBO and Top Rank too. Same for the historically vacant number 1 and 2 slots at the IBF. Actually, do your jobs, you pieces of crap. I know they are your friends, but at least show some sort of decorum. Investigate the WBC's dirthouse.

Maybe one of the BoxingScene writers can ask my direct question to the ABC: Who is the REAL champ at 135 for the WBC? Sulaiman shouldn't get away with that.

[Ray*]

Have always said the WBC are the worse, their rules of “We have no rules - The committee would decide” thing is a straight up way to bend and be corrupt as they see fit.

This is an organisation that called TWO mandatories over the last few weeks in Beterbiev v Browne, and Mungaia v Dervy but their number 1 ranked HW boxer literally has to take them to court for clarification, he was jumped over by their number 3 for a mandatory shot.

This is an organisation that gets itself involved in a boxers contract when it has zero basis to do so, this is an organisation that interject itself in fights that no one asked them to, this is an organisation that make up belts for events when not asked.

More eyes are coming on them soon, it’s a chain effect that has started on the WBA.

[AboutBillions]

Maybe pressure on WBA is a start of things to come? I hope precedents are set.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Have always said the WBC are the worse, their rules of “We have no rules - The committee would decide” thing is a straight up way to bend and be corrupt as they see fit.

This is an organisation that called TWO mandatories over the last few weeks in Beterbiev v Browne, and Mungaia v Dervy but their number 1 ranked HW boxer literally has to take them to court for clarification, he was jumped over by their number 3 for a mandatory shot.

This is an organisation that gets itself involved in a boxers contract when it has zero basis to do so, this is an organisation that interject itself in fights that no one asked them to, this is an organisation that make up belts for events when not asked.

More eyes are coming on them soon, it’s a chain effect that has started on the WBA.

Thank you for the bold. I thought the WBO setting the 60/40 for Crawford-Porter was illegal. They can't be too involved like that, money-wise. I understand the standard 25-35 split to the opponent/mandatory so they are not stiffed. For me, the WBO got too involved in there. Not comfortable with that. It's the promoters' job. These guys have no rules or standards.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Maybe pressure on WBA is a start of things to come? I hope precedents are set.

I'm glad Davis won't be holding their bogus belts anymore. I expect him to vacate their 'super' belt at 130 as well. All fighters shouldn't really waste money on sanctioning fees. These belts are meaningless.

[Marchegiano]

I made a thread about the same thing not too long ago. The sum of it was the ABC isn't making the WBA get rid of titles perse, they're making the WBA limit the number of crowned champions. The WBA has far for interims crowned than the WBC, hence the specific WBA pressure rather than any pressure to limit the creation of belts in boxing.

[Pigeons]

The WBA has been crowning two champions per weight class since 2001. They started crowning an interim champion in every weight class at least 10 years ago. About 4 years ago after vowing to go back to 1 champ, they add the Gold belt to make it 4 champs per weight class instead.

You have to be very egregious in your actions for a long period of time in order for the ABC to do anything about it.

[ShoulderRoll]

The WBA was completely out of control.

But the WBC and the WBO could use some scrutiny as well.

I do wonder if there is some corruption or backdoor politics behind the decision to only do something about the WBA, though?

[techliam]

The vacant no.1 and no.2 slots for the IBF isn’t corruption

the IBF follow their rules to the letter, and that’s how it should be

the no.1 and no.2 spots are filled through elimination bouts. But these don’t happen if fighters don’t acknowledge them and fight for other orgs titles/rankings

if the IBF was the sole professional sanctioning body, we’d have a sport, not a business-entertainment racket