Comments Thread For: Joshua Preparing For Usyk's Movement, Plans To Be Trim For The Fight

[PRINCEKOOL]

Since the Ruiz Junior loss, Joshua has a obsession with being super light.

To me? That is a clear sign that he does not trust himself or his own abilities.

I have always thought he was over-trained for the Ruiz Junior rematch 'He was a bit better vs Pulev, but now looks like he has gone back into over-training mode once again'.

I honestly believe he has a issue with his condition methods ever since the Ruiz Junior rematch.

Note: Tyson Fury for example, will still be sure of himself whether he weighs 260 pounds or 275 pounds etc This does not mean that he will beat Joshua, but just goes to show the differences in character at times. Most people where very concerned for Fury moments after the weigh in for Wilder II 'But Fury, stood their and told everyone he was going straight at Wilder'.

[BangEM]

Since the Ruiz Junior loss, Joshua has a obsession with being super light.

To me? That is a clear sign that he does not trust himself or his own abilities.

I have always thought he was over-trained for the Ruiz Junior rematch 'He was a bit better vs Pulev, but now looks like he has gone back into over-training mode once again'.

I honestly believe he has a issue with his condition methods ever since the Ruiz Junior rematch.

Note: Tyson Fury for example, will still be sure of himself whether he weighs 260 pounds or 275 pounds etc This does not mean that he will beat Joshua, but just goes to show the differences in character at times. Most people where very concerned for Fury moments after the weigh in for Wilder II 'But Fury, stood their and told everyone he was going straight at Wilder'.

You’re always talking out of your arse. And no, it’s not because he doesn’t trust his own abilities - he’s just smarter now and he has realised his bone density isn’t appropriate for the huge muscle mass he was carrying. He never needed all those excessive muscles in the first place and it was most a case of a guy who wasn’t self-conscious enough to know that, you can’t blast everyone one whilst also trying to look like a hunk for the ladies to get moist over. And when you start breathing out of your arse within 7rds because muscles suck a ****load of oxygen - it’s time to cut down the muscles. That’s just common sense - nothing too tedious for anyone with a brain. This isn’t the 90s where you can carry excessive muscles and take PED to supplement your breathing like they all did back then…you’ll get caught trying that in this era.

No, he didn’t overtrain for Ruiz - something else happened before the fight. Anyone who saw him the week leading up to the fight with acupuncture scars all over his face and how dazed he looked knew something was off. You don’t get acupuncture on your face and head if it’s not scrambled. Greedy Edward Hearn cost him a fight that ought to have been cancelled.

Find something else to fabricate your pseudo-analysis around.

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Since the Ruiz Junior loss, Joshua has a obsession with being super light.

To me? That is a clear sign that he does not trust himself or his own abilities.

I have always thought he was over-trained for the Ruiz Junior rematch 'He was a bit better vs Pulev, but now looks like he has gone back into over-training mode once again'.

I honestly believe he has a issue with his condition methods ever since the Ruiz Junior rematch.

Note: Tyson Fury for example, will still be sure of himself whether he weighs 260 pounds or 275 pounds etc This does not mean that he will beat Joshua, but just goes to show the differences in character at times. Most people where very concerned for Fury moments after the weigh in for Wilder II 'But Fury, stood their and told everyone he was going straight at Wilder'.

AJ is an entirely different body type so one has nothing to do with the other comparison to Furys weight and AJ needs to be more fit because of his style ,he’s not a showboat he keeps his hands up and uses counter puncher which requires more energy. When was AJ ever super light ? Fury can be be 350 pounds in that Wilder fight not much to worry about with a limited amount of punches coming at him .

[PRINCEKOOL]

You’re always talking out of your arse. And no, it’s not because he doesn’t trust his own abilities - he’s just smarter now and he has realised his bone density isn’t appropriate for the huge muscle mass he was carrying. He never needed all those excessive muscles in the first place and it was most a case of a guy who wasn’t self-conscious enough to know that, you can’t blast everyone one whilst also trying to look like a hunk for the ladies to get moist over. And when you start breathing out of your arse within 7rds because muscles suck a ****load of oxygen - it’s time to cut down the muscles. That’s just common sense - nothing too tedious for anyone with a brain. This isn’t the 90s where you can carry excessive muscles and take PED to supplement your breathing like they all did back then…you’ll get caught trying that in this era.

No, he didn’t overtrain for Ruiz - something else happened before the fight. Anyone who saw him the week leading up to the fight with acupuncture scars all over his face and how dazed he looked knew something was off. You don’t get acupuncture on your face and head if it’s not scrambled. Greedy Edward Hearn cost him a fight that ought to have been cancelled.

Find something else to fabricate your pseudo-analysis around.

He has obsession with being super light, because he is unsure of his own abilities 'This obsession only surfaced after his loss to Ruiz Junior' and it is still going strong now. Me personally I think it is something he needs to snap out of etc

When was the last time, you saw a heavyweight ****ing on about checking the scales? The number on the scales does not equate to performance 'Heavyweights should train and hit performance targets, and then whatever they weigh in at, that is what they weigh'.

Joshua does not seem to hit as hard, or is as durable since he started this new obsession of being super light.

I honestly just think it is a phase he is going through, and apart of his recovery process.

Being super light does not improve your aerobic capacity, V02 maximum, or lactate threshold. What improves these areas of fitness,is actually training them. Just being super light on its own, is not really going to do much.

This obsession Joshua has with being super light, has taken away something out of his game. Deep down you know this ****Em, you know exactly what I am talking about 'That is why you are reacting'. Do you remember that Joshua who was smiling and laughing when Dillian Whyte hit him hard with that left hook? Do you remember that aura of 'I don't care, I am force that cannot be stopped'. That area of Joshua's game, that state that he used to carry inside the ring and outside the ring 'Ether has gone somewhere or is being repressed by Joshua himself' And it has been replaced with this new obsession of being super light, and in general just being overly not sure of his abilities.

That is why people outside of the ring these days, feel as if they can push him about or test him.

Teddy Atlas and Pauli Malignaggi have also noticed and pointed out similar changes within Anthony Joshua, I am not the first person to identify such changes.

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He has obsession with being super light, because he is unsure of his own abilities 'This obsession only surfaced after his loss to Ruiz Junior' and it is still going strong now. Me personally I think it is something he needs to snap out of etc

When was the last time, you saw a heavyweight ****ing on about checking the scales? The number on the scales does not equate to performance 'Heavyweights should train and hit performance targets, and then whatever they weigh in at, that is what they weigh'.

Joshua does not seem to hit as hard, or is as durable since he started this new obsession of being super light.

I honestly just think it is a phase he is going through, and apart of his recovery process.

Being super light does not improve your aerobic capacity, V02 maximum, or lactate threshold. What improves these areas of fitness,is actually training them. Just being super light on its own, is not really going to do much.

This obsession Joshua has with being super light, has taken away something out of his game. Deep down you know this ****Em, you know exactly what I am talking about 'That is why you are reacting'. Do you remember that Joshua who was smiling and laughing when Dillian Whyte hit him hard with that left hook? Do you remember that aura of 'I don't care, I am force that cannot be stopped'. That area of Joshua's game, that state that he used to carry inside the ring and outside the ring 'Ether has gone somewhere or is being repressed by Joshua himself' And it has been replaced with this new obsession of being super light, and in general just being overly not sure of his abilities.

That is why people outside of the ring these days, feel as if they can push him about or test him.

Teddy Atlas and Pauli Malignaggi have also noticed and pointed out similar changes within Anthony Joshua, I am not the first person to identify such changes.

This is all false AJ comes in at whatever weight his body adjusts to for the opponent of course he’s going to want to be closer to 240 then 250 against Usyk to be faster then him . AJ was 245 against Whyte .

[BangEM]

He has obsession with being super light, because he is unsure of his own abilities 'This obsession only surfaced after his loss to Ruiz Junior' and it is still going strong now. Me personally I think it is something he needs to snap out of etc

When was the last time, you saw a heavyweight ****ing on about checking the scales? The number on the scales does not equate to performance 'Heavyweights should train and hit performance targets, and then whatever they weigh in at, that is what they weigh'.

Joshua does not seem to hit as hard, or is as durable since he started this new obsession of being super light.

I honestly just think it is a phase he is going through, and apart of his recovery process.

Being super light does not improve your aerobic capacity, V02 maximum, or lactate threshold. What improves these areas of fitness,is actually training them. Just being super light on its own, is not really going to do much.

This obsession Joshua has with being super light, has taken away something out of his game. Deep down you know this ****Em, you know exactly what I am talking about 'That is why you are reacting'. Do you remember that Joshua who was smiling and laughing when Dillian Whyte hit him hard with that left hook? Do you remember that aura of 'I don't care, I am force that cannot be stopped'. That area of Joshua's game, that state that he used to carry inside the ring and outside the ring 'Ether has gone somewhere or is being repressed by Joshua himself' And it has been replaced with this new obsession of being super light, and in general just being overly not sure of his abilities.

That is why people outside of the ring these days, feel as if they can push him about or test him.

Teddy Atlas and Pauli Malignaggi have also noticed and pointed out similar changes within Anthony Joshua, I am not the first person to identify such changes.

Wilder is an inch taller than AJ but people claim he’s carrying too much weight when he weighed 220. So does Wilder have an obsession with being super light as well?

AJ is pure muscle without that much body fat unlike people like Whyte, Joyce and Dubois. And his bones aren’t as dense as theirs, so it’s just idiotic on his part to be carrying that much muscles hence he tends to gas out quick. His lungs aren’t that big for that type of muscles he was carrying and I’ve always maintained that he’s at his best between 238-245. The good thing is that he knows better now and he’s doing the right.

He was laughing when Whyte caught him with the left hook because he got carried away and both had their issues pre-fight. Ruiz fight was different - that was solely on Eddie Hearn. Fight should’ve been cancelled. And in the rematch, he had to be cautious due to what happened in the first fight because the demons don’t just disappear like that. He’s back to being himself now after all the abuse he got from the Ruiz loss and he’ll make a statement against Usyk. He’s most likely going to flatten Usyk like he did to Povetkin.

That excessive muscles brute style isn’t sustainable for someone like him. He punches hard with both hands at any weight. He’s very nimble. He’s the most accurate puncher in the division. And he’s a 1,2,3 boxer. What does he need being a brute force for?

[OnlytheTruth]

Since the Ruiz Junior loss, Joshua has a obsession with being super light.

To me? That is a clear sign that he does not trust himself or his own abilities.

I have always thought he was over-trained for the Ruiz Junior rematch 'He was a bit better vs Pulev, but now looks like he has gone back into over-training mode once again'.

I honestly believe he has a issue with his condition methods ever since the Ruiz Junior rematch.

Note: Tyson Fury for example, will still be sure of himself whether he weighs 260 pounds or 275 pounds etc This does not mean that he will beat Joshua, but just goes to show the differences in character at times. Most people where very concerned for Fury moments after the weigh in for Wilder II 'But Fury, stood their and told everyone he was going straight at Wilder'.

FACTS. As a pro, Joshua's lowest weigh in is 229. His highest is 254. His 10lb drop in weight between the Ruiz fights wasn't the biggest drop he's had.

He dropped 12lb between Takam and Parker.

The only correlation between these weight drops is that he went on to win by decision. There is no evidence to suggest that the loss to Ruiz has sparked him to be 'obsessed' with being super light. More a potential change in tactics.

IMO, if Usyk is coming in, as he claims at 232, Joshua needs to say exactly where he was at 240, maybe up to 242, to get his best power to stamina ratio, if he is going for the stoppage.

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I think Usyk will be stopped on his stool . I see his corner waving it off a little after mid rounds from to much punishment and conceding AJ wins the night to fight another day knowing he’s just outmatched there . To much speed ,power and volume for Usyk here against one of the top accurate punchers coming with an 82 inch reach .

[Jab jab boom]

Ok, so you wanted to know why I thought he was unbeatable, up until he lost?

1. He has been fighting at a higher level, in less fights, that any other active HW.
2. He was knocking out people left, right and centre, with ease. Everyone knows Joshua has got incredible power. Its irrefutable.
3. He got knocked down by one of the best heavyweights in the last 30 years, got back up and knocked him out. Wilder wouldn't fight him after 33 fights and Fury stayed well out of the way of Klitschko's power...not that he threw anyway - so AJ took the power and still knocked him out. 53 KO's in 64 Wins...pretty obvious.
4. Fury wasn't around and there wasn't really anyone out there who I could see beating him - until the shock loss to Ruiz. All this 'fat mexican' BS is just trolling. Anyone gets hit on the temple, its game over. If you think that's just an AJ thing - he survived Klitschko. Unless you think Ruiz is better than Klitschko???

So why is it so implausible that I would consider Joshua unbeatable up until he lost? What reasons would I have to think otherwise?

Yeah I think he's better now. He's got far more experience. He doesn't have the pressure of his 'O'. He had to completely change his approach to regaining his titles from Ruiz. All this BS about him running away is a double standard. Fury ran away from Klitschko all night and its gets called a masterclass. So unless you're a troll, its one rule for all, or not al all.

He showed better management of his tank against Pulev and got the KO. Pulev would be a top 5 on his resume for Fury, top 3 for Wilder. Lets not forget that.

yeah, I could thoroughly dissect this in several ways but it seems like your mind is made up, so what’s the point? Enjoy his next fight.

[Ray*]

That's also a good point. I agree it'll be his toughest fight, honest question here but has he seen that pace and footspeed since the amateurs? I can imagine AJ attempting to fight similar to how he fought Ruiz, except Usyk will obviously do a better job than Ruiz. Interestingly, despite his size advantage I don't think AJ should come out hot and try to mug Usyk. If he did, I think Usyk would just turn him and pick him apart with lateral movement and counters.

Who you picking man?

I think AJ would get the W as long as it goes 12 rounds. It might be controversial but I can’t see them giving it to Usyk as long as AJ isn’t KOed