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  • #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

    Who have Haney, Andrade or Bivol fought though? Matchroom are as much to blame as GBP.

    Haney-Linares was a co-promotion too, so they can work together if they want to.
    I'm pretty sure Haney would rather KingRy than Linares. Just like Andrade would love Munguia than Liam Williams. I think Bivol would rather Ramirez than Ryder too!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      I know he didn't, but he got a deal done with Canelo and Plant, for undisputed on FOX. I think he's winning!
      Canelo is not PBC. Haymon doesn’t advise Canelo so he doesn’t get a cut off Canelo. He gets his cut selling the event to Fox. Haymon doesn’t care for his fighters because it’s a joint business with Mayweather. Haymon and Floyd only care about their brand portfolio moving from one network to the other to survive. So if Charlo and Benavidez are expendable to Haymon and Floyd so be it. some guys are destined to take falls.

      and again, you didn’t like the idea that Hearn can play Haymon’s game. If “nobody” even on PBC doesn’t want to fight Morrell then it sucks for Haymon.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        I'm pretty sure Haney would rather KingRy than Linares. Just like Andrade would love Munguia than Liam Williams. I think Bivol would rather Ramirez than Ryder too!
        Bivol would probably fight Ramírez regardless so why wouldn’t he want to fight Ryder before hand? Lol. A check is a check innit

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

          Canelo is not PBC. Haymon doesn’t advise Canelo so he doesn’t get a cut off Canelo. He gets his cut selling the event to Fox. Haymon doesn’t care for his fighters because it’s a joint business with Mayweather. Haymon and Floyd only care about their brand portfolio moving from one network to the other to survive. So if Charlo and Benavidez are expendable to Haymon and Floyd so be it. some guys are destined to take falls.

          and again, you didn’t like the idea that Hearn can play Haymon’s game. If “nobody” even on PBC doesn’t want to fight Morrell then it sucks for Haymon.
          And he did get the fight for FOX, so again, I would say he's winning! Hearn tried to get Canelo to fight Bivol, and that lasted about 2 weeks! Lol!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            I'm pretty sure Haney would rather KingRy than Linares. Just like Andrade would love Munguia than Liam Williams. I think Bivol would rather Ramirez than Ryder too!
            Well why doesn’t Hearn make Ramirez an offer then? That was my original point along with Bivol-Ryder making no f***ing sense.

            Garcia should have fought Haney instead of crying about his “mental health”. He’s the clear A-side in that matchup and was mandatory so the impetus was on him and GBP.

            But in the case of Andrade-Munguia and Bivol-Ramirez, those guys are the champions, the impetus is on them and Matchroom to make those fights happen not GBP.

            As I said both Matchroom and GBP deserve blame for this DAZN mess.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

              Bivol would probably fight Ramírez regardless so why wouldn’t he want to fight Ryder before hand? Lol. A check is a check innit
              If that's all Eddie can get him, of course he would fight him. However, I'm sure he would rather Canelo, Ramirez, or Beterbiev! Those are way BIGGER checks!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                And he did get the fight for FOX, so again, I would say he's winning! Hearn tried to get Canelo to fight Bivol, and that lasted about 2 weeks! Lol!
                Canelo is getting $40mil regardless of PPV. Haymon only “wins if there’s a good PPV for THIS event. So Canelo doesn’t need to worry about PBC profiting or not.

                Canelo vs Bivol is always there. . Undisputed vs a LHW strap where the opportunity is still there.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  If that's all Eddie can get him, of course he would fight him. However, I'm sure he would rather Canelo, Ramirez, or Beterbiev! Those are way BIGGER checks!
                  Like Spence told Crawford to his face, “why wouldn’t I take the easier route (w Porter).” Why wouldn’t Bivol take a check for Ryder?
                  Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 08-23-2021, 07:54 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                    Well why doesn’t Hearn make Ramirez an offer then? That was my original point along with Bivol-Ryder making no f***ing sense.

                    Garcia should have fought Haney instead of crying about his “mental health”. He’s the clear A-side in that matchup and was mandatory so the impetus was on him and GBP.

                    But in the case of Andrade-Munguia and Bivol-Ramirez, those guys are the champions, the impetus is on them and Matchroom to make those fights happen not GBP.

                    As I said both Matchroom and GBP deserve blame for this DAZN mess.
                    I think Eddie sees the writing on the wall! Oscar is mad over the Canelo situation, and I think he's ready to leave DAZN too! That situation with Haney is ridiculous! Munguia could've fought Andrade for the WBO title anytime in the last 3 years, but now they're talking about Gabe Rosado! If Jo Jo fights KingRy, and Ramirez fights anyone besides Bivol, that would only further my su****ion that GBP is leaving DAZN, or at least freezing out MatchRoom!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                      Like Spence told Crawford to his face, “why wouldn’t I take the easier route (w Porter).” Why wouldn’t Bivol take a check for Ryder?
                      Spence vs.Porter was a unification bout for the IBF and WBC titles. Bivol vs. Ryder is not even close to that level!

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