Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Coach Explains Why Boxer Has Surpassed Floyd Mayweather

[aboutfkntime]

So I see your disrespect goes out to many fighters and not just Manny.

You are not analyzing the fights, the importance of the fight to history and what titles maybe on the line.. only who's better, he can't beat him! Type argument. It's cool. I mainly troll, but your logic won't be geared towards discussing anything.

Iam not wasting any time with you. You win.

that's all you needed to say






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[aboutfkntime]

The JMM/PAC fights all were classic fights. Juan is Manny's true rival and should be remembered as such.
I Agree depending on who is watching it could go either way. But Manny getting the nod in the second was also redemption for the scoring error in the first.

Floyd's toying off Marquez is listed as a great win for Floyd. Sorry, can't convince me of that.

FACT: Marquez was NO rival for Mayweather... because Marquez got totally schooled

really surprised you missed that obvious point

FACT: if you think getting a dodgy decision is justified by a earlier judging error in a totally different fight... then you should not be here... and if you think that should even be mentioned when discussing ATG ranking, you totally lost the plot buddy

you should not have mentioned that, or Ledwaba for that matter... that is scraping the bottom of the barrel BIG-TIME

FACT: that win by Mayweather... is better than any win on Pacquiao's record... Pacquiao simply could not achieve that, despite having 4 attempts






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[clmags12]

What criteria is your more significant win, what is that comment based on,,,,, it seems to me that when a guy goes life and death 4 times and gets put to sleep with the winner stating the best fighter he ever fought was Floyd Mayweather, what does that mean to you?

Did you answer me when I asked what it meant that Floyd beat an 18lb bigger version of Oscar than what Manny beat what does that mean to you?

What do you think of Manny having an excuse for every loss he has, do you believe the excuses given?

What do you think about calling Cotto out at 154, saying no fight when Cotto said no CW, then saying Uri Foreman was too big for a 154 title challenge and then go and fight a 2 yr out Margarito after buying him a license to box in Texas for a 154 title at 150lbs, is that the kinda of legacy you talking about, Margarito was the same physical dimension as Forman who was to big.

Do you think saying no fight with Cotto at 154 shows that the 145 win over was because of weight not because he can beat Cotto?

it's hard too follow what you are saying. In all honesty.

When Oscar/Flo happened yes this was a fairer fight compared to when Oscar came in drained with Manny. Oscar is the only one to blame here. At the time no one dictated anything to DLH, only Floyd at the time. Him being drained was on him. And it's hindsight. Of course Floyd got the sd nod, there's that what if again- if Oscar was more active in the later rounds would that make a difference? Still a good win for Floyd.

I hate the excuses, of course.

I wasn't going to bring up Marg, even without that tittle still 7. You aren't impressed that Manny a much smaller guy destroyed a much larger aggressive opponent pressuring him the entire fight?

Cottos loss he even said himself the 2 lbs is nothing. Cotto is another fighter I follow, he was a the top of the WW division when he faced Manny. Even if you brought up Floyd's win over Cotto at the higher strap I would say that's a great win.

[Johnny2x2x]

This debate is over. 50-0 vs 62-8-2 and the 50-0 got a clear easy win over the 62-8-2 fighter. But as others have mentioned. Floyd has the better wins. And the wins they share Floyd beat younger and better versions of the same fighter.
And like it or not, that Canelo win is now an all time win.

[clmags12]

FACT: Marquez was NO rival for Mayweather... because Marquez got totally schooled

really surprised you missed that obvious point

FACT: if you think getting a dodgy decision is justified by a earlier judging error in a totally different fight... then you should not be here... and if you think that should even be mentioned when discussing ATG ranking, you totally lost the plot buddy

you should not have mentioned that, or Ledwaba for that matter... that is scraping the bottom of the barrel BIG-TIME

FACT: that win by Mayweather... is better than any win on Pacquiao's record... Pacquiao simply could not achieve that, despite having 4 attempts






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What's funny is just by chatting with you. I get this strong sense I have slightly more knowledge about Floyd and his past fights than you.
you claim to say his wins over Manny and JMM are better than any one of his Lineal titles. Sorry those 2 wins were garbage, not even HOF type fights only names.

[Roadblock]

it's hard too follow what you are saying. In all honesty.

When Oscar/Flo happened yes this was a fairer fight compared to when Oscar came in drained with Manny. Oscar is the only one to blame here. At the time no one dictated anything to DLH, only Floyd at the time. Him being drained was on him. And it's hindsight. Of course Floyd got the sd nod, there's that what if again- if Oscar was more active in the later rounds would that make a difference? Still a good win for Floyd.

I hate the excuses, of course.

I wasn't going to bring up Marg, even without that tittle still 7. You aren't impressed that Manny a much smaller guy destroyed a much larger aggressive opponent pressuring him the entire fight?

Cottos loss he even said himself the 2 lbs is nothing. Cotto is another fighter I follow, he was a the top of the WW division when he faced Manny. Even if you brought up Floyd's win over Cotto at the higher strap I would say that's a great win.

I was trying to find your ground, in terms of the CWs etc.

Manny beat a shadow of Margarito it didn't impress me at all because Margaritos form leading into that fights was terrible, he was a lamb to slaughter, why do you think Manny had a 22 ft ring, why illegal gloves they were 8s not 10s, you want to know why because Manny could not stop him point blank they knew that, so small 8oz gloves against a sloth in a oversized ring makes a lot of sense, these are the details you don't take into consideration,, you seen Margaritos name and that represents something in your mind, go over Margaritos last 2 yrs accumulating with Manny, it was a sham fight.

As for Cotto saying the 2lb was nothing, I beg to differ canbn you show me he says that after the fight, its here he said he will never do that to his body again for another fighter and he left Arum who through in under a bus building Manny,,,,,,,, Manny knows the 2lb CW weakened Cotto they actually want 143 originally, but any way Cotto was mentally not the same after the cheat beating until he avenged that then you had the rebirth of Cotto, noway Manny was going to fight him without a CW.

But anyway we go around forever, just look deeper than you are looking into the true merit of a win as in the boxing, not titles and names and all that BS the boxing, and what version of the name was in the opposing corner.

[clmags12]

I was trying to find your ground, in terms of the CWs etc.

Manny beat a shadow of Margarito it didn't impress me at all because Margaritos form leading into that fights was terrible, he was a lamb to slaughter, why do you think Manny had a 22 ft ring, why illegal gloves they were 8s not 10s, you want to know why because Manny could not stop him point blank they knew that, so small 8oz gloves against a sloth in a oversized ring makes a lot of sense, these are the details you don't take into consideration,, you seen Margaritos name and that represents something in your mind, go over Margaritos last 2 yrs accumulating with Manny, it was a sham fight.

As for Cotto saying the 2lb was nothing, I beg to differ canbn you show me he says that after the fight, its here he said he will never do that to his body again for another fighter and he left Arum who through in under a bus building Manny,,,,,,,, Manny knows the 2lb CW weakened Cotto they actually want 143 originally, but any way Cotto was mentally not the same after the cheat beating until he avenged that then you had the rebirth of Cotto, noway Manny was going to fight him without a CW.

But anyway we go around forever, just look deeper than you are looking into the true merit of a win as in the boxing, not titles and names and all that BS the boxing, and what version of the name was in the opposing corner.

CWs are there to be used to get fights made. Both parties agree, why not. Better than no fights.

Ok,. You don't like the Marg beat down. I get it.

Cotto said it was nothing on a interview on 24/7 show. He said it before the fight. Stand by his decision. No excuses.

Not sure why you keep saying to look deeper. You busted out hatton diary, lotion in the other hand?

[Roadblock]

CWs are there to be used to get fights made. Both parties agree, why not. Better than no fights.

Ok,. You don't like the Marg beat down. I get it.

Cotto said it was nothing on a interview on 24/7 show. He said it before the fight. Stand by his decision. No excuses.

Not sure why you keep saying to look deeper. You busted out Hatton diary, lotion in the other hand?

I say look deeper because you're obviously a hype swallowing surface dweller, as I said way back you're a fan following the hype not the boxing, there are different levels of knowledge, inside and outside the boxing you're on the outside, like a car owner don't try and be a mechanic because you don't know what you're talking about.

[clmags12]

I say look deeper because you're obviously a hype swallowing surface dweller, as I said way back you're a fan following the hype not the boxing, there are different levels of knowledge, inside and outside the boxing you're on the outside, like a car owner don't try and be a mechanic because you don't know what you're talking about.

I dont have to prove to you how deep I look. I do take things into consideration.
since you were deep diving hattons feelings. For example I was waiting on the Diego Corrales fight to be mentioned. Even though Diego was facing a prison sentence after the fight, i would still give Floyd props fir that win.

[Roadblock]

I dont have to prove to you how deep I look. I do take things into consideration.
since you were deep diving hattons feelings. For example I was waiting on the Diego Corrales fight to be mentioned. Even though Diego was facing a prison sentence after the fight, i would still give Floyd props fir that win.

Your comments tell me how deep you're looking as in Margarito, as in Hatton you have nothing to prove I know where you're at.