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  • Originally posted by NachoMan View Post

    Bud should be the favorite, but it’s going a bit far saying that Bud is way too much for Vergil. Far lesser fighters than Vergil have had Bud in trouble. This is a dangerous fight for Crawford and I will be very surprised if he takes it after he beats Porter.
    HE MAY NOT EVEN BEAT PORTER. NOBODY LOOKS GOOD AGAINST PORTER.......Sorry for shouting

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    • Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

      HE MAY NOT EVEN BEAT PORTER. NOBODY LOOKS GOOD AGAINST PORTER.......Sorry for shouting
      That's true. Porter's a tough night out for most, but I've always thought Crawford would be the guy to make him look 2nd-tier. I think Bud beats up Porter and TKO's him late. Call me crazy, but I think Ortiz Jr. has a much better shot at beating Bud than Porter does.

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      • Originally posted by Clegg View Post

        Crawford knows how to finish so agree he'll get a KO if he hurts Ortiz early. But what about if Ortiz hurts him early? When Crawford gets hurt he tends to get more aggressive and welcome a war, that seems like it'd be a mistake vs Ortiz. I think the smartest approach for Crawford is take his time early like he often does, let Ortiz burn some energy and also make him miss and second-guess himself, then take over in the second half. If I'm Ortiz I go for a very aggressive approach, it's risky but also his best/only real chance
        Well, you're sort of saying that Vergil's best strategy is to play into Bud's best strategy though.

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        • Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
          Ortiz performed as expected. Kava is just ur standard big strong front runner that get's tired after a few rounds..reminds me of Jeff Horn. I look at Ortiz kinda like Spence it's a matter of how long he can remain durable at 147 because these guy's should really be fighting at 154.

          Looking at Ortiz's body he seems to still be filling out and I'm beginning to doubt he can stay a healthy 147 for long with the damage he been taking recently he's been dishing it out too though but that's besides the point.

          People talking about Crawford next but I'd like to see more of a Danny Garcia, Thurman match up Crawford is a little more complex for Ortiz style than people like to give credit for. Crawford vs Porter is the proper fight.
          IDK, I like the way Vergil is daring to be great by calling out the WW elite. I was always a fan of DSG, but he's clearly not a top shelf WW anymore. I think Ortiz KO's Thurman bad too, but I'd be up for that fight. Still, I think going after Crawford is shows tremendous balls. Vergil is 22 yrs and in his physical prime, so why not go after the biggest fish? Yeah, it could end up being a Mayweather - Canelo result, but it could also have a Lopez - Loma outcome.
          Last edited by NachoMan; 08-16-2021, 07:44 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Brother Mouzone View Post

            *****.gif

            Other than TX ...
            Then you're completely deluded to the extreme. Give me these robberies then? Whenever i ask this question, i get nothing in return.

            The US is more corrupt than the rest of the world combined at times 50. To not see this, is to be deluded in a crazy way.

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            • He is ready for the best. If he loses, so what? Look at Canelo.

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              • It is this mentality of Crawford and now Spence of being afraid to lose that is keeping their careers down.

                Pacquiao getting back up and doing what he is doing now after being KTFO by JMM is much more impressive than being undefeated. The greatest have losses. Life will give you losses. If you retired undefeated that likely means your record was protected, manufactured. Probably the most famous case is Rocky Marciano thus he is not as respected like Ali, Joe Louis, Dempsey, etc.

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                • Originally posted by budfr View Post

                  You are right. Crawford may have been p4p 3 or four years ago, not now, He fights lesser opposition. His win vs Benavidez took him 12 rounds and Benavidez fought with one leg.
                  Exactly. At least you see the bigger picture

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