It was a plan from the start

[JakeTheBoxer]

Plan was, Spence somehow finds the way to withdraw. When Spence -Pacquiao was signed, Ugas was told: be ready to fight Pacquiao on 21.8.

They want Ugas as late replacement to beat pacquiao, so Spence will fight Ugas, not Pacquiao, when he returns.

Spence never wanted to risk his 0 against Pacquiao. Now he prays Ugas will beat old Pac for him.

It won`t happen, but that was the plan of Spence`s team.

[BigDramaShow!]

Ugas is a top WW. Arguably beat Shawn Porter. I scored it 8-4. Porter was only saved by the judges.

[DaNeutral.]

I dont believe that, I believe Spence is up for the fight but I believe it has been delayed so the PBC can get an extra fight with the big draw that is Pacquiao through the "IF SPENCE GETS INJURED" clause. And I believe that they were planning to do the same to Canelo in the Plant fight.

Spence is just too much for Manny P now I'm sure Errol would want that name on his resume. Of course there is always the chance Spence eye injury is legit and Ugas next opponent getting an eye injury himself is just one of those unfortunate but fortunate things that had perfect timing.

[Spoon23]

I don't believe in coincidences..

If it was.. life would be easy..

Having to see Ugas opponent having the same eye injury as Spence is just way way too convenient.. Too much stench to shrug off..

[The Big Dunn]

I dont believe that, I believe Spence is up for the fight but I believe it has been delayed so the PBC can get an extra fight with the big draw that is Pacquiao through the "IF SPENCE GETS INJURED" clause. And I believe that they were planning to do the same to Canelo in the Plant fight.

Spence is just too much for Manny P now I'm sure Errol would want that name on his resume. Of course there is always the chance Spence eye injury is legit and Ugas next opponent getting an eye injury himself is just one of those unfortunate but fortunate things that had perfect timing.

why do you think they were doing that to Canelo? Spence, according to reports and video posted on this site, had a difficult sparring session a couple weeks ago.

What if Manny loses? How will they get the extra payday?

[JakeTheBoxer]

I don't believe in coincidences..

If it was.. life would be easy..

Having to see Ugas opponent having the same eye injury as Spence is just way way too convenient.. Too much stench to shrug off..

Sure, how is Ugas more than ready? Welterweights, many of them, have walking around weight about 180+..

Ugas is more than ready. He knew it.

[The Big Dunn]

Sure, how is Ugas more than ready? Welterweights, many of them, have walking around weight about 180+..

Ugas is more than ready. He knew it.

He had a fight on the same card.

[DaNeutral.]

why do you think they were doing that to Canelo? Spence, according to reports and video posted on this site, had a difficult sparring session a couple weeks ago.

What if Manny loses? How will they get the extra payday?

I told you, so Canelo would have to fight a replacement and then take the Plant fight after. Tied down for 2 fights instead of one, well not tied down but in the knowledge he would come back for Plants belt.

Id expect they would gamble on Pac not losing to Ugas but if he does they have still provided Fox with a big name when he fights Ugas, if he wins they have provided him twice.

It's just my cynical opinion Dunn, you know me. It very well can be all legitimate.

[The Big Dunn]

I told you, so Canelo would have to fight a replacement and then take the Plant fight after. Tied down for 2 fights instead of one, well not tied down but in the knowledge he would come back for Plants belt.

Id expect they would gamble on Pac not losing to Ugas but if he does they have still provided Fox with a big name when he fights Ugas, if he wins they have provided him twice.

It's just my cynical opinion Dunn, you know me. It very well can be all legitimate.

That is just you being paranoid. We saw from the Bivol fallout that Canelo was at fault.

Manny is still fighting presumably because whatever guarantee he gets will cover the expenses needed to fund his and Jinkee’s campaigns.

If Manny loses, why would there be a Spence fight for Manny? Then it would be Spence/ugas which isn’t something anyone really cares about.

In retrospect, it appears the reports about Spence in sparring were accurate.

[TonyGe]

Of course it's ligitimate. There is way too much money lost for Spence if Pacquiao loses to Ugas..