Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Handler: 'Beating Spence Would Be Greatest Win In Welterweight History'

[Spoon23]

Can we see this scenario happen?

- Spence wins a controversial decision, a la Tim Bradley.
- PBC squeezes another fight or 2 out of Pac, against Spence.
- Pac taking the 2nd fight.
- Spence taking the rubber match.
- Pac riding off in to the sunset.
- Spence taking over as the cash cow.

A trilogy with Pac would make Spence a household name. This would give him world-wide exposure and, maybe, just maybe, bring the Pac fans and the Philippines over to the Spence side???

I can see it happen.

Hmmm..

No. At this stage I think If Pac gets robbed again ala Bradley one. I think he will be discouraged to continue. This will only further confirm that he will just get robbed again if he gets a rematch. Pac's camp will surely tell him. The establishment in boxing want him out and that the new blood is a protected specie that will be their new milking cow.

Pac is in the twilight of his career. Most vets/legends lose in the end of their career. I just hope Pac can perform at the highest level and turn the clock one last time and win big. That's right. Win big. It's the only way. He has to separate himself from Spence. A close fight won't cut it. Spence will get the W. Like I said, I assume, Pac's camp should know that. It's common sense.

[just the facts]

Hmmm..

No. At this stage I think If Pac gets robbed again ala Bradley one. I think he will be discouraged to continue. This will only further confirm that he will just get robbed again if he gets a rematch. Pac's camp will surely tell him. The establishment in boxing want him out and that the new blood is a protected specie that will be their new milking cow.

Pac is in the twilight of his career. Most vets/legends lose in the end of their career. I just hope Pac can perform at the highest level and turn the clock one last time and win big. That's right. Win big. It's the only way. He has to separate himself from Spence. A close fight won't cut it. Spence will get the W. Like I said, I assume, Pac's camp should know that. It's common sense.

Getting those excuses ready? Are you leaning toward Spence is too big? Or Mannys too old? Or your usual, Manny really won although no one agrees? If it goes to a decision, I bet you go with the ladder again.

[Oregonian]

Porter loses all of his biggest fights. Danny Garcia has no big wins at 147. Mikey Garcia has no great wins at 147. These are facts. Does Pac's decision over Thurman guarantee a victory over Spence? Not at all. It trumps any win that Spence has, though. Is it true or not? Please write me another lengthy essay of BS. Which win makes Spence great? Algieri? Lamont Peterson? Which are his signature wins again? And if Spence's win in the UK wasn't a big deal to you, why bring it up?

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I never said Spence is great. He can be. Beating PAC does not but beating Crawford and unifying the division is a start.
PAC Beating Thurman is a HUGE win. I even said that.
I’m not sure how we’re arguing over those points.

As for Spence’s win in the UK, I was proving the same thing, he had to travel to the UK to beat a belt holder. Manny had to travel out of the Philippines to be relevant and to win a championship.

I could even say Spence could have stayed here and try to get his shot at the other beltholders. Manny had no choice but to leave his home country.

[Oregonian]

Hmmm..

No. At this stage I think If Pac gets robbed again ala Bradley one. I think he will be discouraged to continue. This will only further confirm that he will just get robbed again if he gets a rematch. Pac's camp will surely tell him. The establishment in boxing want him out and that the new blood is a protected specie that will be their new milking cow.

Pac is in the twilight of his career. Most vets/legends lose in the end of their career. I just hope Pac can perform at the highest level and turn the clock one last time and win big. That's right. Win big. It's the only way. He has to separate himself from Spence. A close fight won't cut it. Spence will get the W. Like I said, I assume, Pac's camp should know that. It's common sense.

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You guys don’t need to worry about a robbery or the Filipino fans. Filipinos will stop watching boxing once PAC retires after being sparked out by Spence in the 8th round.

[just the facts]

It really doesn't matter, Pac's a huge sentiment favorite but he ain't beating Spence.

[Spoon23]

Getting those excuses ready? Are you leaning toward Spence is too big? Or Mannys too old? Or your usual, Manny really won although no one agrees? If it goes to a decision, I bet you go with the ladder again.

I wasn't talking to you. I keep it real 100%. It's common sense the boxing establishment would want a new star to bring boxing to the next generation. That said, as I've been saying but you're so dumb enough NOT to realize it. I can see Spence winning, since I've been saying this is a 50/50 fight, and if he does it with no Foul play like what the previous poster I was talking to was mentioning about the Bradley one fight that majority of boxing world saw a robbery. Then I'll even be the first one to come in here and congratulate the new future star of boxing.. Doesn't really fit your narrative of me ain't it.. I'm no pompom shaker like you.

In your Fl0mo world Floyd can't do no wrong. He can fight a gnome or **** and beat up a lady, wear gurly girl cloths, make an embarrassment to himself by fighting an 0-1 fighter, stick IVs, lie to you guys, to you guys Floyd's will always do no wrong.

That's the difference between Pacfans and Floyd fans in a nutshell.

Can't wait for the Pacquiao Win. I won't be seeing your fake ass Just the Facts in a few days...

Seeyaaah not Seeayah!

[just the facts]

I wasn't talking to you. I keep it real 100%. It's common sense the boxing establishment would want a new star to bring boxing to the next generation. That said, as I've been saying but you're so dumb enough NOT to realize it. I can see Spence winning, since I've been saying this is a 50/50 fight, and if he does it with no Foul play like what the previous poster I was talking to was mentioning about the Bradley one fight that majority of boxing world saw a robbery. Then I'll even be the first one to come in here and congratulate the new future star of boxing.. Doesn't really fit your narrative of me ain't it.. I'm no pompom shaker like you.

In your Fl0mo world Floyd can't do no wrong. He can fight a gnome or **** and beat up a lady, wear gurly girl cloths, make an embarrassment to himself by fighting an 0-1 fighter, stick IVs, lie to you guys, to you guys Floyd's will always do no wrong.

That's the difference between Pacfans and Floyd fans in a nutshell.

Can't wait for the Pacquiao Win. I won't be seeing your fake ass Just the Facts in a few days...

Seeyaaah not Seeayah!

Quit dodging the question, which way are you leaning? Is it Mannys too old or Spence is too big of your usual Manny really won?

[HOF Hater]

You’re such a fangirl. It amazes me how you believe everything that comes out of your mouth.

Thanks for your thorough assessment and analysis, dipshit

[HOF Hater]

If Floyd beating Oscar and Pacquiao are not Top 100, then I can't see how Pacquiao beating Spence, can be a Top 25 win?

Floyd beat Oscar on the decline which was clear as day. And the fight was still razor close.

Floyd did not fight or beat Pacman in 2009-2012. In fact Floyd did not fight Pac until after JMM KTFO6.

Floyd gets 50% of blame for fight not happening. Yes, I know Roach said the FIRST NEGOTIATIONS were Top Rank/Pac's fault but there were repeated negotiations afterward for six years...that win is probably Top 100 ever especially if Manny beats Spence after beating Thurman.

Floyd's only true prime v prime win was against Corrales. Manny's best prime v prime win is probably Tim Bradley and potentially Errol Spence. I don't care about any accident because fangirls here are saying "Spence dominated Danny Garcia" (he didn't). So if Spence dominated Danny then he should still be in his prime.

Anyhow, Manny has more "higher tier" wins than Floyd despite losing head to head. Larry Holmes beat Ali but nobody ranks Holmes ahead of Ali. Manny probably sits ahead of Floyd and that's okay - they're both amazing, incredible fighters. Each fighter probably beats EVERYONE they each fought. I would've liked to see Manny v Maidana for damn sure as well as Manny v Canelo at 152. Floyd versus Horn and MAB/Morales would've been fun in his younger years.

[HOF Hater]

I always felt that as well, after 2015 the welterweight division stunk to me. Thurman,Garcia,Porter we’re never special in my eyes. Fights like Thurman-Porter, Thurman-Garcia, Garcia-Porter were just decent fights from decent fighters. None of those fights were memorable, your not going to waste your time rewatching them and that was supposedly PBC huge mega fights. Spence-Porter looked sloppy as hell.

Pacquiao wins huge upset but Spence is no great fighter. He needs to knockout Pacquiao to make a statement

Not trying to be a hater but people just blindly credit Welterweight with historic meaning for no reason other than inheriting the division from Floyd and Manny (as well as Mosley, Cotto, Bradley, Margarito, etc.). None of Thurman, Porter, or Danny Garcia go 3-1 against Mosley, Cotto, Bradley, and Margarito. I'm not sure Spence or Crawford go 4-0 against that competition either.

Yet the media continues to project the modern WW era as "special" when really its, as you said, straightforward, basic, and sloppy at times. I watch these guys and support them but they aren't special just because they're champions today and being champion today doesn't translate to championships in yester year