Leonard Ellerbe: I Can Make Gervonta Davis vs Keith Thurman in Two Seconds. Thurman Can Fight His Ass Off, But Tanks Knocks Him TF Out

[The Big Dunn]

This reminds me of when your boy Floyd called out Winky Wright @ 154 and Winky actually said yeah step up.

They went to the bargaining table and Floyd backed out.

20 bucks says Tank doesn't go through with it.

No it doesn’t. You’re just desperate to quote me.

So the fight didn’t get made. Big deal. Manny went to the bargaining table with Crawford, Manny backed out. You calling him a ducker as well? No.

Kindly go back to the scummy 3rd world sh-thole you reside.

[The Big Dunn]

I am very generous. I just want that Gervonta and his teams stop talking bull**** and fight one of these guys:

Lomachenko, Haney, Lopez, Ryan Garcia, Commey ( at 135)

or Valdez, Herring, Stevenson ( 130)


I ask too much?

No you don’t ask too much. But you assume that Bob and Fishnets will would match his top guys with Tank.

Bob definitely isn’t going to match the 130 lb guys. He will do the 135 lb guys but only those he thinks will win. Dela 8ball is gonna do Ryan in house with Diaz.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Manny didn’t go back to the negotiating table.

He asked for $40 million and signed a contract.

The money didn’t come through.

No it doesn’t. You’re just desperate to quote me.

So the fight didn’t get made. Big deal. Manny went to the bargaining table with Crawford, Manny backed out. You calling him a ducker as well? No.

Kindly go back to the scummy 3rd world sh-thole you reside.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Bob Arum has the history of making cross promotion fights that matter. PBC doesn’t.

But the entire list wasn’t even top rank fighters.

De La Hoya can’t stay in house with Ryan Garcia because he doesn’t have enough fighters. To imply De La Hoya won’t work with another promoter is insane. He has too all the time.

Lou DiBella can’t stay in house with Commey. He doesn’t have enough fighters. Commey has fought PBC and Top Rank fighters in recent years. He’s clearly willing to fight people under any promotional banner. To imply DiBella won’t work with other promoters is insane. He has to all the time.

Eddie Hearn can’t stay in house with Devin Haney. He doesn’t have enough fighters at his weight class.

So let’s not excuse Gervonta Davis for not fighting anyone. There’s three options on that list that are probably very open to fighting Davis.

I also think it’s hilarious that PBC won’t send anyone to fight Crawford and that’s totally allowed and Crawford’s fault according to you.

But when Gervonta Davis doesn’t fight the top guys in his weight class, it’s because Top Rank has all the guys and Top Rank is ducking Davis. Totally Top Rank’s fault and not PBC’s.

You’re such a hypocrite.

No you don’t ask too much. But you assume that Bob and Fishnets will would match his top guys with Tank.

Bob definitely isn’t going to match the 130 lb guys. He will do the 135 lb guys but only those he thinks will win. Dela 8ball is gonna do Ryan in house with Diaz.

[kiaba360]

Great fight for Tank. Tank moves up again to avoid more difficult opponents like Shakur, Teofimo, Loma, and Taylor and fights an inactive and shopworn Thurman.

Tank is great to the body and Thurman cant handle body work evidenced by Manny, Josesito Lopez, and Luis Collazo. Combine that with fact that Thurman hasnt hurt someone in quite a long time.

Tank wins via stoppage, honestly

Although I don't necessarily agree with your prediction, a Thurman match-up is in line with the way that Davis has been moved along. Team Davis is desperate to make him a PPV attraction, and a inactive Thurman is the perfect calculated risk to catapult him.

[rickJen]

Any update from Ellerbe?

[The Big Dunn]

Bob Arum has the history of making cross promotion fights that matter. PBC doesn’t.

But the entire list wasn’t even top rank fighters.

De La Hoya can’t stay in house with Ryan Garcia because he doesn’t have enough fighters. To imply De La Hoya won’t work with another promoter is insane. He has too all the time.

Lou DiBella can’t stay in house with Commey. He doesn’t have enough fighters. Commey has fought PBC and Top Rank fighters in recent years. He’s clearly willing to fight people under any promotional banner. To imply DiBella won’t work with other promoters is insane. He has to all the time.

Eddie Hearn can’t stay in house with Devin Haney. He doesn’t have enough fighters at his weight class.

So let’s not excuse Gervonta Davis for not fighting anyone. There’s three options on that list that are probably very open to fighting Davis.

I also think it’s hilarious that PBC won’t send anyone to fight Crawford and that’s totally allowed and Crawford’s fault according to you.

But when Gervonta Davis doesn’t fight the top guys in his weight class, it’s because Top Rank has all the guys and Top Rank is ducking Davis. Totally Top Rank’s fault and not PBC’s.

You’re such a hypocrite.

I’m not hypocritical at all. There are 2 important points you left out:

1. Crawford took his deal knowing it was designed to prevent a ww tourney with the pbc boxers. He was a free agent to be and had an option to sign with pbc. He chose otherwise.

Now that he is a feee agent to be again, he needs to sign with pbc or stop complaining in public about Bob’s inability to get him quality ww opposition.

Tank had never been a free agent.

Please note that I recommended Haney, who is a LW and has free agency coming, should sign with TR so he can get the best fights at 135 and 140.

2. Tank is the top guy at 130, not 135. He is the top draw at that weight. He is also a bigger draw than the guys at 135. Crawford is not.

( side note-Bob is not matching his top guys at 130 against each other yet. He is making interim fights and building toward a 130 lb title unification as you’re aware.)

When have I ever asked the top draw to leave his promoter to sign with a rival?

You simply need to stop trying to absolve Crawford of blame for his decision to resign with TR knowing what it meant.

Also, you need to stop pretending other promoters have the same background context as PBC and TR. pbc isn’t going to help increase the profile of a TR boxer, especially given the decision Crawford made.

[djtmal]

No it doesn’t. You’re just desperate to quote me.

So the fight didn’t get made. Big deal. Manny went to the bargaining table with Crawford, Manny backed out. You calling him a ducker as well? No.

Kindly go back to the scummy 3rd world sh-thole you reside.

We talking about Tank Davis who is a Floyd protege and the camp is obviously using some of the same strategies Floyd used to get his name out there.

20 bucks says he backs out of a Thurman fight like Floyd backed out of a Winky Wright fight

[BoxingIsGreat]

We talking about Tank Davis who is a Floyd protege and the camp is obviously using some of the same strategies Floyd used to get his name out there.

20 bucks says he backs out of a Thurman fight like Floyd backed out of a Winky Wright fight

People can only back out of something after an agreement is reached. None of that happened as of yet. I'd have liked a different fighter at 135. But if he wants to try a good welter in Thurman, I'm all for it. Many are saying he's crazy for even thinking about welter.

Let's go!

[The Big Dunn]

We talking about Tank Davis who is a Floyd protege and the camp is obviously using some of the same strategies Floyd used to get his name out there.

20 bucks says he backs out of a Thurman fight like Floyd backed out of a Winky Wright fight

I used Manny backing out of a fight as a comparison. It doesn’t mean we’re not talking about Tank.

So what if he does? Just treat it the same way as Manny backing out of the Crawford fight. If you are not criticizing Manny, then you should have nothing to say if any other boxer backs out of a fight.

Fights fall apart all the time. Only pole smokers like you try to make it a duck when that happens.