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JMM Gameplan: Tire Floyd and Batter him in the Late Rounds...
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Originally posted by The_Executioner View PostBecause he fought the #2 P4P fighter coming off a 2 year layoff???
fraud will never take a fight against someone that actually have a chance to beat him.
how can you say you are the best when you don't fight the best?
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Originally posted by Perro View Post"We are working on the same game plan for Mayweather that we used against Julian Wheeler, one of Juan Manuel's first fights in the United States," Beristain said through an interpreter. In 1995, Marquez took on Wheeler at the Great Western Forum, and scored a TKO in the tenth and final round. A former U.S. Olympian and U.S. National champion, Wheeler was listed as 5'8" ½, but when he stepped into the ring, TV announcer Tom Kelly said, "Marquez is decidedly shorter, and in fact listed as 5'7". I would think Wheeler would be closer to 5'10" from the look of him as they stand out there." Wheeler also had a freakish 74-inch reach—almost unheard of for a featherweight—which is two inches longer than Mayweather's.
So how did Beristain neutralize Wheeler's size advantage? He devised a strategy in which Marquez would tire out Wheeler and then batter him in the final rounds. He had Marquez stay in the middle of the ring and not move around except to pivot. This forced Wheeler to constantly expend energy while trying to square off with Marquez and kept him dancing on his toes all night.
The strategy paid off in the closing rounds when the wheels started to come off for Wheeler. In the final round, Wheeler's legs looked leaden and his gloves seemed to be moving in slow motion. Marquez pounced, landing virtually everything he let fly. In the final minute of the fight Marquez tattooed Wheeler with a four-punch combo that wobbled the bigger man's knees. Wheeler, who had been described by Kelly earlier as "a magnificent boxer," was reduced to looking like a punch-drunk wrestler. With five seconds left, and Wheeler still grabbing the referee—somewhat controversially—stepped in and stopped the fight.
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Originally posted by Spacey1991 View PostTo be fair though, bringing the fight to him is one of the best choices... I seriously can't see him outboxing Floyd, I mean JMM is a great fighter in his own right... has loads of experience and is a smart fighter, but I still don't see him outboxing Floyd though (but I guess you can take the layoff into account) but you are right... relying on him tiring really is a bad idea IMO.
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Originally posted by JM1 View Posttrying to make floyd fight will be too risky cause jmm is not that good doing offense. and yes, tiring floyd is a bad idea. floyd can box 15rds with no problems imo
Somebody else had a decent idea though, even though like I said I doubt he could outbox Floyd, but somebody said try to use his jab as much as possible and try to beat him to it (I know he probably isn't faster than Floyd but if he times it right), but I still see him struggling to do that.
You are right though, relying on him getting tired is crazy... like you said he can Box 15 rounds.
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Originally posted by _original_ View PostI don't think JMM can make Mayweather gass out....but hey, they might be onto something....there's not really a blueprint to beat Floyd out there IMO....I think a good jab and a high work rate would beat Mayweather, reason I feel P-Dub is probally the one who has the tools to beat him
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Originally posted by Spacey1991 View PostTrue... but the thing is, I know what your saying about JMM will leave himself open a bit when on the attack and all that, but in this case maybe it is the best idea... I mean he can outbox many fighters, but outbox Floyd? I just don't see it, I mean if it was a brawler then yeah but Floyd is known to be a good Boxer, sometimes the better idea to fight Floyd is to try and bring the fight to him, which is still difficult because he has good defense and can counter punch very well (not trying to big up Floyd here, just saying what I think... which does have something to do with the fight).
Somebody else had a decent idea though, even though like I said I doubt he could outbox Floyd, but somebody said try to use his jab as much as possible and try to beat him to it (I know he probably isn't faster than Floyd but if he times it right), but I still see him struggling to do that.
You are right though, relying on him getting tired is crazy... like you said he can Box 15 rounds.
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JMM's exceptional bodywork is gonna be imperative in this fight. Whenever Mayweather is still for a moment or unloading a few punches of his own Marquez will slip in those hooks to the ribs
Whether he can manage this enough to have Mayweather ripe for the picking by the end while handling Floyd's own offense... Well, we'll see - but I don't think so
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Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post1. Who the hell is Wheeler?
2. Marquez is gonna stand in the center of the ring...WIT FLOYD MAYWEATHER
3. Floyd waits on his opponent or systematically breaks them down...square off?
I hope they have a better strategy than that...your not beating Floyd Mayweather in the center of the ring...
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