Why does PLANT think he’s a PBC star like a once unified Champ Keith Thurman?

**Get em up** · 07-28-2021, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

Keith was undefeated. Unified Champ. Fought known and reputable names. Did 4.6mil views with Porter and DSG. Keith MADE PBC for Haymon. The networks respected Haymon for what Thurman did.

Thurman took 2.5mil with PAC plus PPV upside. PAC took 10million.

Canelo would’ve got 4x PAC. So does Plant think he gets Thurman’s purse for 2.5 x 4 = $10mil ?

What work did Plant put into PBC? His 2mil recent views? Cmon.

At this point I don’t think Plant deserves this fight. Let the PBC Haymonites salivate for Plant vs Benavidez while they wait for that fight not happening and gossip about it as they did for Crawford vs Spence.

Seems to me Plant and Canelo agreed on everything besides the stipulation saying Canelo gets paid if Plant gets sick or injured but if Canelo gets sick or injured the fight just gets post poned. I still believe the fight happens and if it dont I'll fault both fighters for allowing an ignorant stipulation to stop it.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant fight talks break off over disagreements in contract

1:40 PM CT

Mike CoppingerESPN

Canelo Alvarez's longtime goal of becoming undisputed boxing champion is further from reality than ever since he won his third 168-pound title in May.

Boxing's top star was on the verge of a deal to meet Caleb Plant on Sept. 18 in Las Vegas -- a PBC on Fox pay-per-view -- a pact that was in the works for weeks. But at the 11th hour, talks have broken off over disagreements in the contract. The contract was passed back and forth between Alvarez's team and Al Haymon's Premier Boxing Champions over the weekend and after multiple edit requests, the deal collapsed over the stalemate.

"His bark is bigger than his bite," Plant told ESPN during a phone conversation Tuesday evening. "Canelo was offered the highest guarantee of his career: He was set to make $40 million plus Mexican TV rights and his Hennessy Sponsorship. No problem, let's fight. We gave it to him. Then they wanted upside of gate and PPV revenue; no problem, let's rumble.

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"It was always agreed that it was a [title] unification; no rematch for either fighter. Towards the end of negotiations they asked for a rematch when they lose. No problem, you can have the rematch as well, I just wanna fight."

Plant told ESPN he agreed to his side of the deal two weeks ago with "no arguments about money or any stipulations." Besides the one-way rematch clause (it would only go into effect if Alvarez lost), which Plant said he agreed to, there was also the matter of the ring size. Alvarez and Billy Joe Saunders battled over the distance inside the ropes ahead of their May fight, which Alvarez won by ninth-round TKO after he fractured the Brit's orbital bone.

In the end, Alvarez got his wish: a 22-by-22 foot ring. Nevada State Athletic Commission guidelines call for a standard 20-by-20 foot ring; Plant agreed to it. The Nashville native said the star fighter had other "ridiculous requests."

"One that is absurd: If I get injured or sick then he gets a late replacement for the same amount of guaranteed money, but if he gets sick or injured, then we gotta wait for him," Plant added. "We're at seven-and-a-half weeks from the fight; we've lost valuable time that should be spent promoting and drug testing for a fight of this magnitude.

"I question whether legacy or money is their real motive. We've been waiting for him to get done with his wedding, shooting his TV show, his golf tournament and now have tried to give him everything he wants and more to make this fight. I'm more than willing, able and ready to fight Canelo Alvarez on any date. Those are the real facts and if anyone has something to say differently, we have the paperwork to prove it."

Talks could be revisited, sources said, but time is running out if Alvarez plans to fight on Mexican Independence Day weekend as he traditionally does. If he moves on from a fight with Plant, who holds the only super middleweight title not in Alvarez's possession, another option is a return to 175 pounds for a title tilt with Russia's Dmitry Bivol, sources said.

**Thuglife Nelo** · 07-28-2021, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Get em up

Seems to me Plant and Canelo agreed on everything besides the stipulation saying Canelo gets paid if Plant gets sick or injured but if Canelo gets sick or injured the fight just gets post poned. I still believe the fight happens and if it dont I'll fault both fighters for allowing an ignorant stipulation to stop it.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant fight talks break off over disagreements in contract

1:40 PM CT

Mike CoppingerESPN

Canelo Alvarez's longtime goal of becoming undisputed boxing champion is further from reality than ever since he won his third 168-pound title in May.

Boxing's top star was on the verge of a deal to meet Caleb Plant on Sept. 18 in Las Vegas -- a PBC on Fox pay-per-view -- a pact that was in the works for weeks. But at the 11th hour, talks have broken off over disagreements in the contract. The contract was passed back and forth between Alvarez's team and Al Haymon's Premier Boxing Champions over the weekend and after multiple edit requests, the deal collapsed over the stalemate.

"His bark is bigger than his bite," Plant told ESPN during a phone conversation Tuesday evening. "Canelo was offered the highest guarantee of his career: He was set to make $40 million plus Mexican TV rights and his Hennessy Sponsorship. No problem, let's fight. We gave it to him. Then they wanted upside of gate and PPV revenue; no problem, let's rumble.

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"It was always agreed that it was a [title] unification; no rematch for either fighter. Towards the end of negotiations they asked for a rematch when they lose. No problem, you can have the rematch as well, I just wanna fight."

Plant told ESPN he agreed to his side of the deal two weeks ago with "no arguments about money or any stipulations." Besides the one-way rematch clause (it would only go into effect if Alvarez lost), which Plant said he agreed to, there was also the matter of the ring size. Alvarez and Billy Joe Saunders battled over the distance inside the ropes ahead of their May fight, which Alvarez won by ninth-round TKO after he fractured the Brit's orbital bone.

In the end, Alvarez got his wish: a 22-by-22 foot ring. Nevada State Athletic Commission guidelines call for a standard 20-by-20 foot ring; Plant agreed to it. The Nashville native said the star fighter had other "ridiculous requests."

"One that is absurd: If I get injured or sick then he gets a late replacement for the same amount of guaranteed money, but if he gets sick or injured, then we gotta wait for him," Plant added. "We're at seven-and-a-half weeks from the fight; we've lost valuable time that should be spent promoting and drug testing for a fight of this magnitude.

"I question whether legacy or money is their real motive. We've been waiting for him to get done with his wedding, shooting his TV show, his golf tournament and now have tried to give him everything he wants and more to make this fight. I'm more than willing, able and ready to fight Canelo Alvarez on any date. Those are the real facts and if anyone has something to say differently, we have the paperwork to prove it."

Talks could be revisited, sources said, but time is running out if Alvarez plans to fight on Mexican Independence Day weekend as he traditionally does. If he moves on from a fight with Plant, who holds the only super middleweight title not in Alvarez's possession, another option is a return to 175 pounds for a title tilt with Russia's Dmitry Bivol, sources said.

The “investment” is to stage Saul Canelo Alvarez on Fox for his Mexican date. That specific date would’ve been on DAZN anyways. PBC and the network affiliate would benefit from Canelo for which way they promoted it on whoever he fought. The premise was for Undisputed. Unfortunately PBC twice offered Canelo a multi deal. PBC originally tried to grab Canelo with a $75mil offer when he took DAZN v�a legal. This whole throwing multi deals at Canelo is just a waste of time.

People don’t want to acknowledge that Plant isn’t a star.

**The Big Dunn** · 07-28-2021, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Get em up

Seems to me Plant and Canelo agreed on everything besides the stipulation saying Canelo gets paid if Plant gets sick or injured but if Canelo gets sick or injured the fight just gets post poned. I still believe the fight happens and if it dont I'll fault both fighters for allowing an ignorant stipulation to stop it.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant fight talks break off over disagreements in contract

1:40 PM CT

Mike CoppingerESPN

Canelo Alvarez's longtime goal of becoming undisputed boxing champion is further from reality than ever since he won his third 168-pound title in May.

Boxing's top star was on the verge of a deal to meet Caleb Plant on Sept. 18 in Las Vegas -- a PBC on Fox pay-per-view -- a pact that was in the works for weeks. But at the 11th hour, talks have broken off over disagreements in the contract. The contract was passed back and forth between Alvarez's team and Al Haymon's Premier Boxing Champions over the weekend and after multiple edit requests, the deal collapsed over the stalemate.

"His bark is bigger than his bite," Plant told ESPN during a phone conversation Tuesday evening. "Canelo was offered the highest guarantee of his career: He was set to make $40 million plus Mexican TV rights and his Hennessy Sponsorship. No problem, let's fight. We gave it to him. Then they wanted upside of gate and PPV revenue; no problem, let's rumble.

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"It was always agreed that it was a [title] unification; no rematch for either fighter. Towards the end of negotiations they asked for a rematch when they lose. No problem, you can have the rematch as well, I just wanna fight."

Plant told ESPN he agreed to his side of the deal two weeks ago with "no arguments about money or any stipulations." Besides the one-way rematch clause (it would only go into effect if Alvarez lost), which Plant said he agreed to, there was also the matter of the ring size. Alvarez and Billy Joe Saunders battled over the distance inside the ropes ahead of their May fight, which Alvarez won by ninth-round TKO after he fractured the Brit's orbital bone.

In the end, Alvarez got his wish: a 22-by-22 foot ring. Nevada State Athletic Commission guidelines call for a standard 20-by-20 foot ring; Plant agreed to it. The Nashville native said the star fighter had other "ridiculous requests."

"One that is absurd: If I get injured or sick then he gets a late replacement for the same amount of guaranteed money, but if he gets sick or injured, then we gotta wait for him," Plant added. "We're at seven-and-a-half weeks from the fight; we've lost valuable time that should be spent promoting and drug testing for a fight of this magnitude.

"I question whether legacy or money is their real motive. We've been waiting for him to get done with his wedding, shooting his TV show, his golf tournament and now have tried to give him everything he wants and more to make this fight. I'm more than willing, able and ready to fight Canelo Alvarez on any date. Those are the real facts and if anyone has something to say differently, we have the paperwork to prove it."

Talks could be revisited, sources said, but time is running out if Alvarez plans to fight on Mexican Independence Day weekend as he traditionally does. If he moves on from a fight with Plant, who holds the only super middleweight title not in Alvarez's possession, another option is a return to 175 pounds for a title tilt with Russia's Dmitry Bivol, sources said.

IMO, Plant is crazy to think he deserves that amount, if it isn’t Canelo.

But I get why he asked for it. I just don’t think he and his team are being reasonable.

**Get em up** · 07-28-2021, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by The Big Dunn

IMO, Plant is crazy to think he deserves that amount, if it isn’t Canelo.

But I get why he asked for it. I just don’t think he and his team are being reasonable.

From the article they have agreed on the money the hold up seems to be a ****** stipulation. One side or the other needs to suck it up or I'll be disappointed with BOTH sides

Why does PLANT think he’s a PBC star like a once unified Champ Keith Thurman?