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  • Steak
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    #1

    What if the fight was stopped?

    What if Marquez vs Pacquiao had a three knockdown rule, and the fight was changed from a controversial very close fight to a KO in 1 for Pacquiao?

    What if Mosley vs Vernon Forrest had ended in the 2nd round, which might have happened if Steve Smoger hadnt been the referee?

    name some fights that could have ended early due to technicalities or weaker stomached referees.
    and have some fun, imagine how boxing would have perceived the 'loser' in each case.

    for example...I seriously doubt that Marquez would have ever been the P4P #2 if there was a three knockdown rule in the fight, despite the fact that he would be the same exact fighter as he is now.
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    #2
    That is actually a good question, most refs would have stopped the Mosley/Forrest fight he was badly hurt and stumbling all around the ring at one point.....as far and JMM/Pac 1.....there certainly would have been no rematch when you tko a guy in round 1....... who knows who Pac would have fought after that, things would have been alot different the DLH fight really propelled his career and if the fight would have been stopped it may never have happened and Pac may not be in the position he is in now.
    Last edited by Spray_resistant; 09-04-2009, 08:47 PM.

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    • Steak
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      #3
      oddly enough, I actually think that Pacquiao's career would have been slightly hurt if Marquez got stopped in the first.

      after all, most people would put Marquez as Pacquiao's #1 win(although personally I still think its Barrera). and chances are that Marquez would have never really gotten any respect or big fights after being stopped in the first.

      he would have had a huge amount of momentum after the Marquez KO in 1, but would have gone on to lose to Morales, ending that momentum.

      maybe Im crazy though

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      • BEEHOP
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        #4
        Wlad vs Sam peter

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          • Junito-Rulez
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            #6
            Very interesting question, Marquez with that ****** 3 KD rule would have been considered as a bum and would fight for small events. The 3 KD rule is horrible.
            I can't think of how many destinies this rule(used or not) changed. Sam Peter would have been the Heavyweight champ against Wlad for example.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Cotto-Rulez
              Very interesting question, Marquez with that ****** 3 KD rule would have been considered as a bum and would fight for small events. The 3 KD rule is horrible.
              I can't think of how many destinies this rule(used or not) changed. Sam Peter would have been the Heavyweight champ against Wlad for example.
              Klitschko-Peter was a non-title fight and Klitschko wasn't down 3 times in one round.

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                pac would've never ran from marquez and would have never been forced to move up weight divisions and beat weak champions to avoid marquez

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  What if Marquez vs Pacquiao had a three knockdown rule, and the fight was changed from a controversial very close fight to a KO in 1 for Pacquiao?

                  What if Mosley vs Vernon Forrest had ended in the 2nd round, which might have happened if Steve Smoger hadnt been the referee?

                  name some fights that could have ended early due to technicalities or weaker stomached referees.
                  and have some fun, imagine how boxing would have perceived the 'loser' in each case.

                  for example...I seriously doubt that Marquez would have ever been the P4P #2 if there was a three knockdown rule in the fight, despite the fact that he would be the same exact fighter as he is now.
                  This is a really good question.

                  Had the first fight been a KO win for Pacquiao, I think the second fight would not have happened. However, Marquez is a proud fighter and would've likely rebuilt after, and could've possibly been a top P4P guy, IMO. He just would not have been top three. Those Pac-JMM fights are bittersweet. They were two great fights, both of which could have gone either way. It's unfortunate for JMM since he did not get a decision, and IMO, will lose to Floyd, is sorta a smaller version of Tommy Hearns. Great fighter, but because of two or three fights in particular, will live in the shadows of his two greatest contemporaries.

                  As far as Mosley-Vernon, I believe Shane would've built himself backup. He just has that same quality as JMM

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                  • Steak
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                    I think Wlad was only knocked down twice in one round, so the three knockdown rule wouldnt have come into play. the other knockdown came in a seperate round.

                    Iran Barkley vs Benn comes to mind immediately when talking about the 3 knockdown rule. I seriously doubt that fight would have been legitimately stopped in the 2nd or 3rd round had it gotten the chance to continue.

                    The thing is that boxing fans are so unforgiving. I think about someone like Sumbu Kalambay, who never gets any respect or recognition, despite the fact he was a very skilled fighter.
                    No one could look past the KO in 1 by Nunn. it is embarressing, yea, but being KOed in 1 doesnt magically make you a bum either.

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