Comments Thread For: Bellew Explains Why Joe Joyce is a Problem For All Top Heavyweights

[Roberto Vasquez]

I partially agree with Bellew but Ajs stamina is not an issue when he fight's all these 38-41 year olds (4 of last 6)who are slow & shot with 4-5 rounds in them or a super obese Ruiz standing still.
As a meat head against Klitschko only age beat Klitschko that night not Aj, when Aj punches in bunches he gasses & he was done in the 5th but Klitschko got old.
When as the leaner boxer Aj almost put away Pulev in i think the 3rd he had to take a round off because he still gasses & when he isn't given time & he's preasured he'll gas again.

Fighting Joyce Aj will be on the back Joyce on the front foot & it'll be a battle of the jabs both occasionally landing bombs, then it'll be battle of the chins & i know who my moneys on.

Joshua trains differently now, he does less weights and more sparring but yes you are right, he does gas a bit. I think what people really miss about AJ is he doesn't hit super-hard. He hits hard - there is a difference. Every boxer who has fought him says he has a VERY hard left jab but his right is average. AJ tends to stop people when the punches add up.

[Smash]

i love it when bellew starts explaining things, he really hits things right on the head with his vulcan logic, he disects topics bit by bit slowly revealing the hidden truth, he really should have a weekly mailbag like bread

[nacho daddy]

Joyce won't get far with that square stance, and arm punches. When he finally gets in the ring with a real HW I think it will become obvious that any fighter who can move well with adequate speed and power will be able to puncture Joyce's wide guard, not to mention step around his stance and punish him from angles.

I don't give him a hope beyond becoming a gatekeeper.

joyce is a slow plodding guy who stands in front of a fighter doesnt move his head and does not punch hard. takam was tired after 4 rds

[I have no ears]

Man I can't wait for Joyce to obliterate Joshua, you have never seen a fighter at this weight with this engine and the chin is atg the best chin to enter a boxing ring

We are talking an Ali level chin here people

He doesnt feel punches he said last night he didn't even know he was getting hit he credited his defence because he doesn't feel it

joyce will walk through any heavyweight today

And everyone talking about angles!
when Joyce is close and they try to make angles he delivers devastating bodyshot uppercuts the same time they make openings

You all need to go back and revise the fight the guy is no joke

and Joyce is sneaky look how slow he is throwing that jab out and that right hand then go and watch when he actually hurt takam...he can turn up the speed and heat whenever he wants and that fuel he has is unlimited, he can go full turbo for 12 rounds and I believe you will see some of the best tall pressure if he does get in the ring with any of the top 3

He got knocked out in 32 seconds in the amateur's against Sergei kuzmin, I agree his chin is legend tier, but he can be hurt and stopped

[I have no ears]

The same people faking confusion at Bellew's conditioning comment are the same ones who claim Joshua ran for 12 rounds against Ruiz.

Which one is it? Does he run for 12 rounds or does he gas after 1? It can't be both.

Or do you just disagree with any complimentary statement on Joshua because you're convinced that the unified heavyweight champion of the world is a bum?

Someone called toffee may have a slight soft spot for bellew, let's be honest, unless you're name isn't anything to do with Everton, but unlikely haha. I like bellew as a boxer but as a pundit and analyst he's absolute s**t and without you're blue glasses on u would see this clearly

[Stuntman Mike]

He got knocked out in 32 seconds in the amateur's against Sergei kuzmin, I agree his chin is legend tier, but he can be hurt and stopped

Need to go back and have a look..Joyce with the sheer force of the shot was on his arse,his facial expression never changes he looks ready to get back into it ,in fact he's so calm when he gets back up the refmistakes it for him not being aware of his surroundings or something...just weird he had no urgency however he raises his hands at the count of 7 and says he's OK and the ref waves it off

Personally I think it's Joyce's fault but he just stayed cool as a cucumber he wasn't even worried or hurt ,go have another look and tell me he's hurt

If anything go back and watch that footage and tell me that it doesn't solidify more so that he has an atg chin ...the guy is more durable than any boxer I have ever seen

[SN!PER]

Wilder vs. Joyce so we can finally get an answer to the question, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

[Boxingfanatic75]

The same people faking confusion at Bellew's conditioning comment are the same ones who claim Joshua ran for 12 rounds against Ruiz.

Which one is it? Does he run for 12 rounds or does he gas after 1? It can't be both.

Or do you just disagree with any complimentary statement on Joshua because you're convinced that the unified heavyweight champion of the world is a bum?

Two things can be true at the same time. He gasses after one if he trades. It’s proven; anytime he trades and if he doesn’t get his man out he gasses. That’s been seen and it’s a fact. We’ve also seen what happens for 12 rounds of running. Any boxer with decent condition that isn’t expending energy by throwing can run for 12 rounds because you are using barely any energy whatsoever. So, in essence this is an either or proposition. AJ throws he gasses. AJ runs he isn’t expending hardly any energy.

simple

[Roberto Vasquez]

Two things can be true at the same time. He gasses after one if he trades. It’s proven; anytime he trades and if he doesn’t get his man out he gasses. That’s been seen and it’s a fact. We’ve also seen what happens for 12 rounds of running. Any boxer with decent condition that isn’t expending energy by throwing can run for 12 rounds because you are using barely any energy whatsoever. So, in essence this isn’t an either or proposition. AJ throws he gasses. AJ runs he isn’t expending hardly any energy.

simple

Yes not to mention that AJ came in light for the 2nd Ruiz fight. Like I said already tho - AJ trains differently since the Ruiz loss - more sparring, less weights. I'm sure he will still gas but he will definitely do it less than before.

Wilder is biggest threat to AJ not Fury. Facts!

[I have no ears]

Need to go back and have a look..Joyce with the sheer force of the shot was on his arse,his facial expression never changes he looks ready to get back into it ,in fact he's so calm when he gets back up the refmistakes it for him not being aware of his surroundings or something...just weird he had no urgency however he raises his hands at the count of 7 and says he's OK and the ref waves it off

Personally I think it's Joyce's fault but he just stayed cool as a cucumber he wasn't even worried or hurt ,go have another look and tell me he's hurt

If anything go back and watch that footage and tell me that it doesn't solidify more so that he has an atg chin ...the guy is more durable than any boxer I have ever seen

Whether u think he wasn't that hurt he got knocked down, but admittedly he did seem to have his wits about him, but again he still was knocked down by a guy who isn't exactly elite level, still though probably the best chin I've seen in boxing for a long time, as I said before, totally agree with what you're saying, I just think people seem to be viewing him as unstoppable but that definitely isn't the case in my opinion