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  • #21
    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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    Both Tito and Winky were bigger than Floyd but regardless, Tito in my opinion was a one-dimensional fighter. The way Winky beat him was just amazing. Winky beat Tito by using a single punch - the JAB.
    Tito had no Plan B or C. In fact his dad was so lost that all he could tell Tito after the 7th round was “you’re winning the fight just punch through him”, despite the obvious impenetrable high guard that Winky was using.
    Also, Oscar beat Tito and had he not “run” the last 4 rounds, it was a pure boxing exhibition. So did Hopkins and so did an old Roy Jones.

    Tito relied on his power to overwhelm his opponents. He wasn’t as skilled as some would like to believe. He was just a better version of Margarito.

    As for Winky, his jab would have given Floyd a lot of problems but he wasn’t as quick on his fight to chase Floyd nor was he a big puncher or nearly half as skilled as Floyd but his style was a nightmare for anyone including Floyd nut I wouldn’t say he beats Floyd.
    Tito & Margarito aren't in the same species let alone galaxy. This takes the cake. Tito would beat the sht outta Margacheato with 1 arm behind his back, easily.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

      Lol. Don’t worry Vergil Ortiz will stop Crawford.

      but keep your fantasies doe. What else do you have? Crawford is minor leagues. Canelo is war machine
      Jabjacqueef is just angry that I own his pathetic sorry ass account. That beta has been on this site hating on Canelo while hanging off his balls since the last time Crawford fought a legit opponent(half a decade)

      I have proven to that queef that 99.9% of his comments are about Canelo & when I won his beta account off him it was because he was unable to scrounge together more than 3 measly posts that criticized a non Canelo fighter in any way,he couldn't show me a single comment showing him criticizing ggg for Rolls & Szeremeta,but this phàg still persists....

      At least he stopped predicting who would beat Canelo"If he ever stops ducking" because after so many times Canelo faced who this ***** said hed duck(& beat them) he no longer is willing to risk getting exposed. Whoever Canelo fights he says"be...be because they looked bad in last fight(despite every champ qualifying as that if someone is such a phàg to use that as criteria)
      Last edited by kushking; 07-24-2021, 04:14 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by kushking View Post

        Jabjacqueef is just angry that I own his pathetic sorry ass account. That beta has been on this site hating on Canelo while hanging off his balls since the last time Crawford fought a legit opponent(half a decade)

        I have proven to that queef that 99.9% of his comments are about Canelo & when I won his beta account off him it was because he was unable to scrounge together more than 3 measly posts that criticized a non Canelo fighter in any way,he couldn't show me a single comment showing him criticizing ggg for Rolls & Szeremeta,but this phàg still persists....

        At least he stopped predicting who would beat Canelo"If he ever stops ducking" because after so many times Canelo faced who this ***** said hed duck(& beat them) he no longer is willing to risk getting exposed. Whoever Canelo fights he says"be...be because they looked bad in last fight(despite every champ qualifying as that if someone is such a phàg to use that as criteria)
        Fap Fap said Canelo wouldn’t fight BJS or Plant… but but we want multideals first doe and on PBC

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        • #24
          i don't buy bread's prediction.. how many times it gets the wrong result?
          HOF Hater HOF Hater likes this.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

            Lol. Don’t worry Vergil Ortiz will stop Crawford.

            but keep your fantasies doe. What else do you have? Crawford is minor leagues. Canelo is war machine
            now I know you’re bugging. Crawford will do Ortiz like Tito did Vargas.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
              ——————
              Both Tito and Winky were bigger than Floyd but regardless, Tito in my opinion was a one-dimensional fighter. The way Winky beat him was just amazing. Winky beat Tito by using a single punch - the JAB.
              Tito had no Plan B or C. In fact his dad was so lost that all he could tell Tito after the 7th round was “you’re winning the fight just punch through him”, despite the obvious impenetrable high guard that Winky was using.
              Also, Oscar beat Tito and had he not “run” the last 4 rounds, it was a pure boxing exhibition. So did Hopkins and so did an old Roy Jones.

              Tito relied on his power to overwhelm his opponents. He wasn’t as skilled as some would like to believe. He was just a better version of Margarito.
              As for Winky, his jab would have given Floyd a lot of problems but he wasn’t as quick on his fight to chase Floyd nor was he a big puncher or nearly half as skilled as Floyd but his style was a nightmare for anyone including Floyd nut I wouldn’t say he beats Floyd.
              if Winky and Tito were not bigger than Floyd, I'd 100% pick Floyd. Tito had one punch KO power and he let his hands go; Tito would have a strong puncher's chance.

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              • #27
                Bread has great historical knowledge but I don't value his current opinion much. Nonetheless I completely agree with his last words:

                "Floyd and Manny are unique because they are transcendent. They can match up with any fighters ever in every weight class they ever participated in. I don’t pick them to beat everyone but they hold their own vs everybody. That’s the difference between an ATG and a great."

                Both of these guys would've been competitive and won some and loss some with the BESTS to EVER do it...JCC Sr., Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Pernell, Sweet Pea, Benny Leonard, Henry Armstrong, Kostya Tszu, Benitez, Gavilan, and - YES - even Sugar Ray Robinson. Both Floyd and Manny had a chance against SRR - no **** sucking...those two were THAT GOOD in their primes.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by blowblow View Post
                  i don't buy bread's prediction.. how many times it gets the wrong result?
                  Bread also picked Jermell to beat Castano and even stop him. Castano won pretty cleanly 8-4 or 7-5 but Jermell got a gift draw.

                  Bread picks Spence (the black fighter, of course) so what does that mean? It really means nothing. Spence is the betting favorite so who cares? Manny is not fucking around though and I expect Spence to get clipped AT LEAST once. Let's see how little Errol responds when he's getting punched in the face.
                  Last edited by HOF Hater; 07-24-2021, 05:58 PM.
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                  • #29
                    Depends. Is this the Felix Trinidad with the illegally wrapped hands? And is the Floyd Mayweather who got caught with an illegal IV in his home the night before Pacquiao and nothing was done about it?

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                    • #30
                      ...






                      I have been telling everyone for YEARS on this site... that basing P4P solely on resume is highly flawed

                      well, whaddya know...

                      " The Eye Ball test is just as important as everything else in determining a fighter’s worth. "

                      1) style
                      2) skills
                      3) form

                      FACT: Teo did not have a resume before he faced Lomachenko


                      FACT: Teo did not suddenly become a P4P fighter in that fight... he was THE EXACT SAME FIGHTER before Lomachenko

                      you either, knew... or, you did not know... that is the only difference

                      I said that Lomachenko would be a top P4P fighter immediately after he lost his second fight to Salido... while others took the opportunity to leap in and insist he was over-rated







                      ...

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