What Jeff Horn Did That Errol Spence Can’t

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #41
    Originally posted by BodyBagz
    I am called a Pac hater but Pac was robbed badly in Aussie. No 2 ways about it. Similar to how judges made the 1st Maidana May fight closer that it should have been. Most of Maidana's punches were deflected or missed completely. Some judges score aggression, regardless if it's ineffective or not.

    Only a fighter with limited options will use the Horn/Maidana technique (Maidana being far superior to Horn in every way).

    Spence CAN do what JMM did, though
    do what JMM did!?

    how about do what Morales did

    he used his jab to back manny up

    hurt manny to the body

    outbrawled manny in spurts

    and hurted manny with a nice southpaw right hook

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      #42
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

      is there anything Horn did that you can't see Errol doing.

      yes, hitting the canvas

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      • BodyBagz
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        #43
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

        do what JMM did!?

        how about do what Morales did

        he used his jab to back manny up

        hurt manny to the body

        outbrawled manny in spurts

        and hurted manny with a nice southpaw right hook
        JMM gave Pac hell in every fight. I would say he got the better of Pac even without the 4th fight. Spence can attack Pac with the power and technique JMM doesn't have. JMM is ok with eating punches to get into counter position. Spence can comfortably do that without eating shots.

        I don't know why Horn is used
        That fight should never have happened anyway. Cherry pick gone wrong.

        If Pac wins, it won't be by KO/TKO. Spence is a little more than Rios level and Rios felt fine afterwards (his head was all lumpy, though).

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        • BodyBagz
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          #44
          Another way of looking at it -

          Safe to say Spence wouldn't let a part time school teacher rob him. Would make sure it didn't go to the judges.

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            #45
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Some of you believe manny beat Horn, but nonetheless Horn still gave manny hell

            Errol and Horn are both pressure fighters. Spence is levels beyond Horn.

            is there anything Horn did that you can’t see Errol doing.

            Horn won at least 5 rounds. Errol simply needs to do a marginally better job, and he gets the victory.

            difference I see manny taking Spence seriously and training harder instead of slacking off in camp like he did with Horn
            I highly doubt Spence will be anywhere near as recklessly aggressive as Horn was. Horn knew that was his only option whilst Spence has far more ability and technical prowess. Spence will apply pressure but it will be educated pressure, he’s not gonna charge in head first like Horn did.
            Last edited by RJJ-94-02=GOAT; 07-11-2021, 01:13 AM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              I highly doubt Spence will anywhere near as recklessly aggressive as Horn was. Horn knew that was his only option whilst Spence has far more ability and technical prowess. Spence will apply pressure but it will be educated pressure, he’s not gonna charge in head first like Horn did.
              Beat manny Erik Morales style?!

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                #47
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                Beat manny Erik Morales style?!
                I see Spence approaching it how he approached the Mikey fight. Sometimes he’ll pressure, other times he’ll use his feet and maintain distance.

                I see Pacquiao having some success early but then Spence taking over during the later rounds. You can never write Pac off but I think Spence wins via a competitive but clear decision.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  Beat manny Erik Morales style?!
                  Sry but Horn and Erik HAD to fight the way they did. Spence has enough skills where he won't haver to be in harms way to land a shot.

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                  • pasawayako
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Another way of looking at it -

                    Safe to say Spence wouldn't let a part time school teacher rob him. Would make sure it didn't go to the judges.
                    the school teacher was given a gift win against a chess player/PBA player/billiard player/actor/singer/model and most of all a full time senator.

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                    • Richard G
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                      #50
                      Horn did what no-one has done since, he bustled Manny relentlessly and physically and never gave him a break. The knock down finished Manny, he had run out of juice from the effort. All Spence has to do is more of the same which he should be able to do but better to get the KO. If he tries to fight him conventionally then Manny has a chance, not much of one but a chance.

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