Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury, Multiple Team Members Test Positive For Covid, Wilder Trilogy Bout Postponed

[Smash]

FYI, for all the ignorant people on here who act like Google isn't at their finger tips: You can still test positive, carry the Covid19 virus and pass it along to others after being vaccinated.
You just won't have the symptoms, similar to people who actually gets the virus and didn't get the vaccine but remain A-symptomatic.

From the WHO website

Vismita Gupta-Smith
Kate, after one has been vaccinated, can one still catch COVID-19 and can one also infect others?

Dr. Katherine O'Brien
That's a great question. The clinical trials demonstrated that these vaccines protect people against disease. What we don't know yet from the clinical trials is whether or not the vaccines also protect people from just getting infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and whether or not it protects against transmitting to somebody else. So, this is a really important part of our understanding about what these vaccines do. Do they only protect against disease or do they also protect against getting infected and being able to transmit to somebody else, even if you're not having any symptoms?

[Monty Fisto]

From the WHO website

Vismita Gupta-Smith
Kate, after one has been vaccinated, can one still catch COVID-19 and can one also infect others?

Dr. Katherine O'Brien
That's a great question. The clinical trials demonstrated that these vaccines protect people against disease. What we don't know yet from the clinical trials is whether or not the vaccines also protect people from just getting infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and whether or not it protects against transmitting to somebody else. So, this is a really important part of our understanding about what these vaccines do. Do they only protect against disease or do they also protect against getting infected and being able to transmit to somebody else, even if you're not having any symptoms?

Yeah, we are talking about two things though.

if you get the vaccine, we know you are less likely to get sick. Some people will still get sick though, because the vaccines are not 100% effective. But the trials showed the number of people getting sick was much smaller than the number who got sick in the control group. As you write above, we don't know for sure if the vaccine is only protecting them from getting sick or if it is also stops them from transmitting the virus.

Separately, we have those who get sick anyway. They will be able to transmit the virus.

[Smash]

Yeah, we are talking about two things though.

if you get the vaccine, we know you are less likely to get sick. Some people will still get sick though, because the vaccines are not 100% effective. But the trials showed the number of people getting sick was much smaller than the number who got sick in the control group. As you write above, we don't know for sure if the vaccine is only protecting them from getting sick or if it is also stops them from transmitting the virus.

Separately, we have those who get sick anyway. They will be able to transmit the virus.

Lets think about this for a second

If people who were fully vaxed could pass on the virus like for example someone who was not vaxed, this virus would never go away and would just circulate full speed all the time regardless of who was vaxed or not, this im sure is not the case surely, fully vaxed people will either not pass on the virus or pass it on at a much lower rate, much much lower i would say, im not really talking about the small percentage who are fully vaxed but get covid full blast who may well be just as contagious

[Jkp]

Something has been up with this fight for a while. No build-up whatsoever, not sure about Fury's condition, get Whyte in to fight Wilder for the WBC title, and make Fury vs Joshua, Usyk has no business fighting for a title anyway after losing to Chisora. Nash out.

Whyte had no business fighting for a title. The coward just turned down guaranteed title shot against AJ, he's on a 1 win winning streak, he's a 2 time convicted peds cheat, he got ko'd by a mid tier 40 year old.


But would love to see him fed to Wilder.

[Nash out]

Whyte had no business fighting for a title. The coward just turned down guaranteed title shot against AJ, he's on a 1 win winning streak, he's a 2 time convicted peds cheat, he got ko'd by a mid tier 40 year old.


But would love to see him fed to Wilder.

He maybe doesn't have any business fighting for a title, but he was screwed over being number 1 with WBC for 1000 days, and should have got a shot instead of Breazeale. Add to that, Whyte and Wilder have some history and heat between them and it will be fireworks right from the off. I'd be surprised if Whyte lasted longer than 3 rounds.

[thabanga510]

He maybe doesn't have any business fighting for a title, but he was screwed over being number 1 with WBC for 1000 days, and should have got a shot instead of Breazeale. Add to that, Whyte and Wilder have some history and heat between them and it will be fireworks right from the off. I'd be surprised if Whyte lasted longer than 3 rounds.

Lol its been proven the 1000 days was a lie why do people still run with it?

[Nash out]

Lol its been proven the 1000 days was a lie why do people still run with it?

Even if not 1000 days, it was a very long time, and he was far more deserving than Brezeale and Molina getting two shots each at world title belts.

[Monty Fisto]

Lets think about this for a second

If people who were fully vaxed could pass on the virus like for example someone who was not vaxed, this virus would never go away and would just circulate full speed all the time regardless of who was vaxed or not, this im sure is not the case surely, fully vaxed people will either not pass on the virus or pass it on at a much lower rate, much much lower i would say, im not really talking about the small percentage who are fully vaxed but get covid full blast who may well be just as contagious

Perhaps, but not neccessarily.

Consider the UK where close to 90% of the adult population have had one dose and around 65% have had two doses. They are well on their way to another wave of Covid with 30K new cases per day at the moment (compares with a peak of around 5k new cases per day in the first wave in 2020). And this is in the summer when people are more outside and when last year we saw cases naturally dropping off without any vaccinations. Sounds like there is fairly decent evidence there that even vaccinated people can still transmit. Few are getting sick or dying though, beause so many are vaccinated. It's possible it helps fight transmission, but I don't think we can make the conclusion you are.

It's difficult to say for sure because we have variants. The delta variant is driving numbers up in the UK. It's possible as that variant takes hold in N America that we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe the vaccines do block transmission for the original version of covid, but not the delta variant.

[jmrf4435]

wilder is suicidal

[Smash]

Perhaps, but not neccessarily.

Consider the UK where close to 90% of the adult population have had one dose and around 65% have had two doses. They are well on their way to another wave of Covid with 30K new cases per day at the moment (compares with a peak of around 5k new cases per day in the first wave in 2020). And this is in the summer when people are more outside and when last year we saw cases naturally dropping off without any vaccinations. Sounds like there is fairly decent evidence there that even vaccinated people can still transmit. Few are getting sick or dying though, beause so many are vaccinated. It's possible it helps fight transmission, but I don't think we can make the conclusion you are.

It's difficult to say for sure because we have variants. The delta variant is driving numbers up in the UK. It's possible as that variant takes hold in N America that we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe the vaccines do block transmission for the original version of covid, but not the delta variant.

As far as i can see most if not all of the cases are amongst the younger age groups who are less vaxed, they are also as far as i know randomly testing people for covid to check the community levels of the virus and i have heard nothing about high levels caught amongst fully vaxed people, if they were finding cases amongst fully vaxed people we would know all about it by now i would say