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  • #81
    Originally posted by Mission2Uranus View Post

    What do you mean when you say "world level"? I've always taken it to mean a guy who's in the top 10-15 in the world in his weight class. That would make them world level to me. What is your definition, or what are the requirements for a fighter to be "world level"?
    Danny Garcia is a 2 weight champion but he was at NO POINT IN TIME a true WW champion. Just a product of a modern "5 champions per weight class" propaganda.

    Porter has never won a belt at another weight class.

    Neither Danny nor Porter are world level fighters. Both good contemporary fighters but they're just decent fighters...that's all.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

      I side with you overall but you do realize that both of them were world champs, right? How can you not be world level after having been a world titlist?
      There are 5+ "champs" in a given weight class today. That directly contradicts what "champion" means.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post

        How could Spence fight them? They're on the other side of the street and Spence don't cross no street. And Spence been cracked many times before...wouldn't surprise me if he lost to really anyone on Bud's resume
        Tell me who on Bum’s resume could beat Spence

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        • #84
          Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

          Tell me who on Bum’s resume could beat Spence
          Kell Brook. Spence fought Brook after Brook went from 147 to 160 and challenged GGG only to get TKO'd and need surgery. Then he slimmed back down from 160 to 147 (cutting muscle mass along the way). Check out RJJ if youre unfamiliar with why that doesn't work both ways, Trump fuck.

          Postol. Robbed against Taylor and Ramirez. He is no pushover. I'd favor Spence but no more than 3-1 (more competitive than Manny fight).

          Dierry Jean. Robbed against Lamont PEDerson. And Jean beat a young, fresh PEDerson and not the heavy bag/retired PEDerson that Spensor fought.

          Gamboa. TC beat/stopped the prime, undefeated Gamboa. The same Gamboa that TANK and DEON HENNY couldn't stop. TANK technically stopped Gamboa in the 11th or 12th after Yuri tore his MF'ING ACL in like the 4th round LOL

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          Spence needed Brook to give him his shot but Spence won't give Vergil Ortiz or Jaron Boots Ennis their shot...guess what? Neither are PBC so Spensor wouldn't fight either. Don't even whisper Crawford. Erralda don't want NO SMOKE. PERIOD.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post

            There are 5+ "champs" in a given weight class today. That directly contradicts what "champion" means.
            So what you're saying is that you don't recognize world titlists as being world level? Do I hear you correctly? And there are 4 x major belts and have been for over 30 years. It's not a new thing. As it turns out, your user name is fitting

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            • #86
              Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

              Tell me who on Bum’s resume could beat Spence
              Okay, maybe no one, but who on Spence's resume could beat Crawford?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                So what you're saying is that you don't recognize world titlists as being world level? Do I hear you correctly? And there are 4 x major belts and have been for over 30 years. It's not a new thing. As it turns out, your user name is fitting
                These are the "CHAMPIONS" for Welterweight in boxing TODAY. Terrence Crawford is listed as the #1 WW Champion. There are 13 world titles, CHUMP, and Crawford is #1 despite only having 1 title. DOGS recognize DOGS

                International Boxing Federation Interim World Vacant
                International Boxing Federation World Errol Spence Jr
                International Boxing Organization World Vacant
                World Boxing Association Gold World Vergil Ortiz Jr
                World Boxing Association Interim World Vacant
                World Boxing Association Super World Vacant
                World Boxing Association World Vacant
                World Boxing Council Diamond Vacant
                World Boxing Council Interim World Vacant
                World Boxing Council World Errol Spence Jr
                World Boxing Organisation Global Michael McKinson
                World Boxing Organisation Interim World Vacant
                World Boxing Organisation World Terence Crawford

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post

                  Kell Brook. Spence fought Brook after Brook went from 147 to 160 and challenged GGG only to get TKO'd and need surgery. Then he slimmed back down from 160 to 147 (cutting muscle mass along the way). Check out RJJ if youre unfamiliar with why that doesn't work both ways, Trump fuck.

                  Postol. Robbed against Taylor and Ramirez. He is no pushover. I'd favor Spence but no more than 3-1 (more competitive than Manny fight).

                  Dierry Jean. Robbed against Lamont PEDerson. And Jean beat a young, fresh PEDerson and not the heavy bag/retired PEDerson that Spensor fought.

                  Gamboa. TC beat/stopped the prime, undefeated Gamboa. The same Gamboa that TANK and DEON HENNY couldn't stop. TANK technically stopped Gamboa in the 11th or 12th after Yuri tore his MF'ING ACL in like the 4th round LOL

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                  Spence needed Brook to give him his shot but Spence won't give Vergil Ortiz or Jaron Boots Ennis their shot...guess what? Neither are PBC so Spensor wouldn't fight either. Don't even whisper Crawford. Erralda don't want NO SMOKE. PERIOD.
                  2017 Kell Brook >>>> the weight drained corpse Bud fought

                  The others are no hopers and it’s funny you mention prospects like Ortiz and Ennis when Bud has never fought a top prospect

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                    Okay, maybe no one, but who on Spence's resume could beat Crawford?
                    2017 Brook
                    Porter
                    maybe Danny Garcia

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

                      2017 Kell Brook >>>> the weight drained corpse Bud fought

                      The others are no hopers and it's funny you mention prospects like Ortiz and Ennis when Bud has never fought a top prospect
                      Bud has literally beaten like 8 undefeated fighters. WTF is an undefeated fighter in a CHAMPIONSHIP fight if NOT a TOP PROSPECT?!?!

                      Jeff Horn immediately after he beat Pacman

                      Postol immediately after he STOPPED Matthyse

                      Indongo

                      Gamboa

                      Benavidez Jr

                      Jean

                      Klimov

                      Kavaliauskas

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                      I guess you would prefer if Crawford called up LIGHTWEIGHTS 135 pounders to fight at 147...that would be MORE impressive. Or should Bud chase corpses like Lamont Peterson? Or no hopers like Ocampo ?

                      GTFOH and stay in the ILBBC YT channels, fam. You aint shit

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