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  • Amir Imam
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    America Dominates BoxRec P4P Rankings

    Interesting list. Is this list accurate?




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    Originally posted by Amir Imam
    Interesting list. Is this list accurate?




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    Accurate? There's no such thing as objective 'accuracy' when you're talking P4P. It's basically just subjective nonsense - although if enough people agree on it then I guess it has some meaning - and Boxrec's is just algorithmically generated nonsense. Generally - when compared to the overall consensus - Boxrec's P4P is the worst major list out there.

    I don't subscribe to P4P at all myself, though I have got a kinda loose list of who I consider the elite at any given time in no particular order, but If that kinda thing rocks your boat though TBRB or the RING are probably closer to what most people would consider a realistic list:




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    Comparison chart from Wiki for illustrative purposes (it's looks a little outta date) - the columns on the right are Ring, BWAA, TBRB, ESPN and Boxrec in that order. You'll notice how most of the others are largely in agreement whereas Boxrec (on the extreme right) have 5 fighters in their top 10 that aren't on any of the other lists and omit 4 that are on every other list. Should give you an idea how they're generally regarded.



    Canelo Álvarez 56–1–2 (38 KO) Super middleweight WBA (Super), WBC, WBO and The Ring 1 1 1 1 1
    Naoya Inoue 20–0 (17 KO) Bantamweight IBF, WBA (Super), and The Ring 2 3 2 3
    Terence Crawford 37–0 (28 KO) Welterweight WBO 3 2 3 2 2
    Oleksandr Usyk 18–0 (13 KO) Heavyweight 4 7 4 8
    Josh Taylor 18–0 (13 KO) Light welterweight IBF, WBA (Super), WBC, WBO and The Ring 5 6 7
    Errol Spence Jr. 27–0 (21 KO) Welterweight IBF and WBC 6 4 5 4 4
    Teófimo López 16–0 (12 KO) Lightweight IBF, WBA (Super), WBO, and The Ring 7 5 10 5
    Juan Francisco Estrada 42–3 (28 KO) Super flyweight WBA (Super) and The Ring 8 9 8 10
    Vasyl Lomachenko 14–2 (10 KO) Lightweight 9 8 9
    Kazuto Ioka 26–2 (15 KO) Super flyweight WBO 10
    Tyson Fury 30–0–1 (21 KO) Heavyweight WBC and The Ring 6 7 6 3
    Gennady Golovkin 41–1–1 (36 KO) Middleweight IBF and IBO 10 9 5
    Anthony Joshua 24–1 (22 KO) Heavyweight IBF, WBA (Super), WBO, and IBO 7
    Deontay Wilder 42–1–1 (41 KO) Heavyweight 9
    Jermall Charlo 31–0 (22 KO) Middleweight WBC 6
    Óscar Valdez 29–0 (23 KO) Super featherweight WBC 8
    Manny Pacquiao 62–7–2 (39 KO) Welterweight 10


    https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=251


    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...d-debut-top-10

    https://www.bwaa.org/single-post/can...for-pound-king






    In terms of US dominance the US generally hold more of the P4P slots that other nations usually followed by Mexico and the distribution of titles tends to be similar, but to a large degree this reflects the fact that the US has the greatest number of professional boxers in the world with Mexico not far behind. In terms of absolute numbers no other nation comes close... I ain't gonna check again now but last I looked there were something like 3500 active US boxers, maybe 3000 from Mexico and UK coming in third with maybe a thousand or so and Japan around the same. Could be the numbers active have changed some due to COVID though.

    Anyway crunch the numbers a bit and whilst the US and Mexico are usually in front in outright numbers, when worked on a per boxer it turns out the major boxing nations tend to come out with roughly equal - or at least comparable - success when averaged over time.

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