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  • Pac=Duran
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    #21
    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
    They say they will no longer go to 160. They’ll only oblige Spence at 164 at Cowboys Stadium. Funny how Charlo asked Haymon for 164 against Canelo… tsk tsk

    can Spence dare like SRL and Duran going to 168?

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    Canelo is an absolute King. One of the only guys that is giving the fans what they want.

    A true legend of the sport. He has an historic resume. You can't say enough about this man's effort and the quality of his legacy. A top tier fighter and I'm talking in historic terms here. A legend of the highest order.

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    • Fists_of_Fury
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      #22
      Originally posted by HOF Hater

      Canelo isn't calling Spence out. Spence has been calling Canelo out for a few years now. I guess everyone can call Canelo out all they want and its no big deal but God forbid Canelo accept a call-out ????

      Yeesh. The PBC fangirls are a strange bunch...NOT what MLK had in mind. . .
      You clearly lack reading comprehension . The guy you quoted was translating daggum's spanish post for me. daggum is an avid Top Rank shill and anti-PBC by the way. So your post is dumb as hell . Dumbass anti-PBC fangimps...

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      • KTFOKING
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        #23
        Originally posted by HOF Hater

        Canelo isn't calling Spence out. Spence has been calling Canelo out for a few years now. I guess everyone can call Canelo out all they want and its no big deal but God forbid Canelo accept a call-out ????

        Yeesh. The PBC fangirls are a strange bunch...NOT what MLK had in mind. . .
        Do you realize I was only translating the post for him?

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        • AliBombaye
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          #24
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

          BJS, Jacobs, Fielding, Kovalev, Smith, Yildirim… all heavier guys than Canelo on fight night. Wouldn’t all those be catchweights? Or are all those fights a translation of 152lbs?
          I don't know the exact circumstances surrounding all those fights but Canelo did have his own special weight class 155. He also made sure Kovalev accepted a fight with him soon after he already had a fight making the weight cut hard on Kov, it was either a take it or leave it deal for Kovalev. He's just playing the 'A' side role which Floyd taught him.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #25
            Originally posted by HOF Hater

            Canelo isn't calling Spence out. Spence has been calling Canelo out for a few years now. I guess everyone can call Canelo out all they want and its no big deal but God forbid Canelo accept a call-out ????

            Yeesh. The PBC fangirls are a strange bunch...NOT what MLK had in mind. . .
            That guy is original LDBC and a PBC diehard lover. They don’t like Canelo. He’s probably from Texas too…

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #26
              Originally posted by AliBombaye

              I don't know the exact circumstances surrounding all those fights but Canelo did have his own special weight class 155. He also made sure Kovalev accepted a fight with him soon after he already had a fight making the weight cut hard on Kov, it was either a take it or leave it deal for Kovalev. He's just playing the 'A' side role which Floyd taught him.
              There’s no such thing as Canelo having a “weight class.” Those narratives existed protocol PBC and semi industry agenda to spite Oscar while Schaefer moved traction with Haymon. So fans came up with tacky things to say to oppose GBP or Canelo.

              Lara, Kirkland, Angulo all fought many many times above 155, higher than what Canelo was ever introduced to. All those guys combined had more than 20 fights above 155. So therefore, what’s the advantage. The key word or concept is advantage. Those guys were all the same size as Canelo and they weren’t campaigning at 160. So what’s the problem? Angulo, Lara, Kirkland all have to grind to make 154 and was harder for them since they had more experience than Canelo above 155. Did you know Lara had about 4-5 fights before Canelo at exactly 155lb?

              So if you actually know boxing, Canelo was giving those guys 1lb more of water they didn’t have to sacrifice to make weight. Make sense? Can’t believe fans don’t understand that. The problem is that fans read what other nonsense others say. Trolling is unique as are facts…

              Oscar was already telling industry a year ahead of Kovalev as a possibility. Even before Jacobs, headlines stated Kovalev as a possibility. It means Main Events had the opportunity to tell Kovalev to stay ready before end of year. In the meantime Kovalev chose Yarde, and winner would fight Canelo. Nobody put a gun to Kovalev’s head. He was aware of it for more than a year
              Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 06-26-2021, 12:49 AM.

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              • PinkGod
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                #27
                Originally posted by HOF Hater

                What? Canelo fought GGG twice (undefeated, prime GGG), Jacobs (#1 MW not named GGG), Kovalev (on decline, but 2 weight classes above Canelo), undefeated Callum Smith, undefeated BJS, and is trying to fight undefeated Plant to unify 168.

                And you doubt Canelo's willingness to fight such and such opponent? You aren't a fan of the sport - you're a hater.
                Hater? nah, I call s*** how it is. He lost to GGG twice, beat an overrated Jacobs (who has he beat?), beat up a super washed up Kovalev (If he "wanted to be great" why not fight Bivol or Beterbiev? maybe because its too big a risk), beat an undercamped Callum & beat overrated billy hoe saunders (who has been on a decline since the Lemieux fight). Its all a matter of perspective, you see it one way, i see it another. I think AlvaRoid is a great fighter who is very careful about who he fights.

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                • HOF Hater
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PinkGod

                  Hater? nah, I call s*** how it is. He lost to GGG twice, beat an overrated Jacobs (who has he beat?), beat up a super washed up Kovalev (If he "wanted to be great" why not fight Bivol or Beterbiev? maybe because its too big a risk), beat an undercamped Callum & beat overrated billy hoe saunders (who has been on a decline since the Lemieux fight). Its all a matter of perspective, you see it one way, i see it another. I think AlvaRoid is a great fighter who is very careful about who he fights.
                  There's not much substance in your post, friend. It is clear you don't like Canelo but your dislike doesn't appear to be objective.

                  Name one fighter (besides Pacquiao) that has a better resume than Canelo.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PinkGod

                    Hater? nah, I call s*** how it is. He lost to GGG twice, beat an overrated Jacobs (who has he beat?), beat up a super washed up Kovalev (If he "wanted to be great" why not fight Bivol or Beterbiev? maybe because its too big a risk), beat an undercamped Callum & beat overrated billy hoe saunders (who has been on a decline since the Lemieux fight). Its all a matter of perspective, you see it one way, i see it another. I think AlvaRoid is a great fighter who is very careful about who he fights.
                    In real life you are rewarded what you do over what others aren’t doing. To make it easier, you could cite 1000 reasons why Canelo ain’t “great” to your standards, but other boxers refuse to take his challenges. You think Saul Alvarez and his handlers are the only boxing group in the world that knows the concept of an offer? There are plenty of fighters that have million dollar backing to get to point B to A to a possible Canelo fight. Why aren’t Bivol and Beterbiev still not unifying. Lol. As I made a thread last year, I hope Canelo fights both before they fight each other. It makes guys like you feel more salty. Then again, you’re not really a boxing fan.

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                    • PinkGod
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                      In real life you are rewarded what you do over what others aren’t doing. To make it easier, you could cite 1000 reasons why Canelo ain’t “great” to your standards, but other boxers refuse to take his challenges. You think Saul Alvarez and his handlers are the only boxing group in the world that knows the concept of an offer? There are plenty of fighters that have million dollar backing to get to point B to A to a possible Canelo fight. Why aren’t Bivol and Beterbiev still not unifying. Lol. As I made a thread last year, I hope Canelo fights both before they fight each other. It makes guys like you feel more salty. Then again, you’re not really a boxing fan.
                      Never said he wasn't great, i said the exact opposite actually. You say fighter are refusing the challenge but everyone is begging him to fight so that was a lie. Why Beterbiev or Bivol haven't unified? I have no idea but what I do know is that both called him out for a fight (contradicts your earlier point) after which AlvaRoid himself said he's going to "stay put at 168" & doesn't plan on fighting above 168 anytime soon (so much for fighters not taking the "challenge" lol). I would like to see him fight both as well, I give him a great shot at Beterbiev (i think he's the easier one to beat) but Bivol embarrasses him imo.

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