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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #81
    Why would Bob Arum fix a fight to benefit someone he didn’t promote while sabotaging someone he did promote?

    I can’t wait to hear this explanation.

    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I think Pacquiao's promoter was a co-conspirator in the crime...TWICE! That's why he's no longer his promoter! That and "fake contracts!" Lol!

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      #82
      GGG has one loss in 43 fights. It came to the number one p4p fighter in the world. He also fought to a draw against him. GGG broke the record for most middleweight title defenses.

      Charlo, Andrade and Munguia were all undefeated champions at 154, the division you claim is so good. Not good enough to hand any of them a loss.

      Murata is an Olympic gold medalist.

      168 does have Benavidez though. It also has Canelo Alvarez and Danny Jacobs.

      BJS is more proven than anyone at 154, who cares that he failed a test for something that isn’t banned in competition in his home country?

      Caleb Plant is unproven, just like everyone at 154.

      Smith is more proven than anyone at 154.

      154 is not more proven than the 140 pound division Crawford unified. That 140 pound division was better.

      Ricky Burns is a three division champion. He’s better than anyone at 154 now. Matthysse is better than anyone at 154. So is Postol and Crawford.

      Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva

      Ok and what is 160? GGG a highly overrated fighter who waited until he was ancient to actuallt fight a good fighter? Charlo and Andrade who literally haven't fought anybody worth a damn since they were ironicallt at 154? Murata? Lol

      168 without Benavidez in it is a lackluster ass division too. Saunders is a PED cheat, Plant is completely unrpoven, and Smith, while a decent fighter, is nothing to write home about.

      This current 154 division is much better than the 140 division Crawford went Undisputed in. Postol's only good win was a twice beaten Matthyse. Indongo beat Ricky Burns and Troyawhatever to become unified.

      I really don't like to diminish divisions, but a lot of these divisions y'all hype up be underwhelming as ****. 160 and 168 have been garbage divisions for quite some time, I don’t care how much 'talent' these divisions have if they don't fight each other. I respect the current 140 and 154 divisions and Cruiserweight as well because they all actually fight each other. 135, 147, and 160 could take some notes from those divisions.

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      • Dallas' 4 Eva
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        #83
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        GGG has one loss in 43 fights. It came to the number one p4p fighter in the world. He also fought to a draw against him. GGG broke the record for most middleweight title defenses.

        Charlo, Andrade and Munguia were all undefeated champions at 154, the division you claim is so good. Not good enough to hand any of them a loss.

        Murata is an Olympic gold medalist.

        168 does have Benavidez though. It also has Canelo Alvarez and Danny Jacobs.

        BJS is more proven than anyone at 154, who cares that he failed a test for something that isn’t banned in competition in his home country?

        Caleb Plant is unproven, just like everyone at 154.

        Smith is more proven than anyone at 154.

        154 is not more proven than the 140 pound division Crawford unified. That 140 pound division was better.

        Ricky Burns is a three division champion. He’s better than anyone at 154 now. Matthysse is better than anyone at 154. So is Postol and Crawford.


        Murata has two losses. Like I said Andrade and Charlo's best fights were both at 154, at 160 they are dog ****. BJS best win was Lemiux... I don't see how that makes him more proven than anyone. GGG also has only fought three legit opponents in 43 fights and got a gift in one fight and the other was razor close, the other two were a loss(should have been two) to Canelo.

        Ricky Burns was nothing at 140 bro, he never made a lot of noise there. 140 was trash when Crawford was there. This current 140 is a MUCH better weight class. Prograis beat Indongo in more impressive fashion than Crawford, Hooker had took 4 0's in a row before he lost to Ramirez, and Ramirez was unbeaten.

        Brian Castano is a better fighter than anyone Crawford, Andrade, or Jermall Charlo has ever fought. He has legit wins in his weight class and an excellent amatuer pedigree with wins over Errol Spence Jr and Sergey Derevyanchenko, he thoroughly handled Teixiera who beat a tough fighter in Adames to win his belt. He is not a bum.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Doubledagger

          He threw 1200 punches against Mikey so its right up his alley
          Little Mikey who stood on the outside of Spence's punches. Spence threw 1082 total punches, 618 were jabs.

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            #85
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Why would Bob Arum fix a fight to benefit someone he didn’t promote while sabotaging someone he did promote?

            I can’t wait to hear this explanation.


            Jeff Horn involved in car accident, but June 9 title defense vs. Terence Crawford still on

            Welterweight world titleholder Jeff Horn was involved in a three-car accident in his hometown of Brisbane, Australia, on Thursday but escaped injury and his mandatory defense against Terence Crawford is still on.

            Horn, who will make his second title defense since winning the 147-pound belt by highly controversial decision from Manny Pacquiao last July before a crowd of some 51,000 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, is scheduled to face 2017 ESPN.com fighter of the year Crawford on June 9 in the main event of a Top Rank Boxing on ESPN+ card at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

            "We don't let little things like car accidents or bruised hands stop us unlike those (expletive) American fighters, who if it was them they would be crying right now they would have to delay the fight," Duco Events promoter Dean Lonergan, who co-promotes Horn with Top Rank, told ESPN in a text message.

            Despite being involved in a car accident in Australia, Jeff Horn will still defend his welterweight title vs. Terence Crawford on June 9.


            That's how Arum does business! You didn't think he was just going to get a fight with Pacquiao and Crawford without Bob getting something, did you?


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              #86
              Every name at 154 has a loss besides Castano but you hold Murata responsible for losing?

              Charlo’s biggest test was at 160 and he passed it.

              Lemieux is a former champion who is better than everyone at 154.

              GGG has fought at least 11 fighters who are better than anyone at 154.

              Current 140 is better than the previous one 140. Both are better than 154.

              Brian Castano is not better than everyone those three have fought.


              Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva

              Murata has two losses. Like I said Andrade and Charlo's best fights were both at 154, at 160 they are dog ****. BJS best win was Lemiux... I don't see how that makes him more proven than anyone. GGG also has only fought three legit opponents in 43 fights and got a gift in one fight and the other was razor close, the other two were a loss(should have been two) to Canelo.

              Ricky Burns was nothing at 140 bro, he never made a lot of noise there. 140 was trash when Crawford was there. This current 140 is a MUCH better weight class. Prograis beat Indongo in more impressive fashion than Crawford, Hooker had took 4 0's in a row before he lost to Ramirez, and Ramirez was unbeaten.

              Brian Castano is a better fighter than anyone Crawford, Andrade, or Jermall Charlo has ever fought. He has legit wins in his weight class and an excellent amatuer pedigree with wins over Errol Spence Jr and Sergey Derevyanchenko, he thoroughly handled Teixiera who beat a tough fighter in Adames to win his belt. He is not a bum.

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                #87
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                Every name at 154 has a loss besides Castano but you hold Murata responsible for losing?

                Charlo’s biggest test was at 160 and he passed it.

                Lemieux is a former champion who is better than everyone at 154.

                GGG has fought at least 11 fighters who are better than anyone at 154.

                Current 140 is better than the previous one 140. Both are better than 154.

                Brian Castano is not better than everyone those three have fought.



                I actually don't knock fighters for losing, newrly every great fighter in history has lost at least once, some have losses to journeyman. It happens in a sport where one punch can end a fight. You are saying Tomy Harrison moved up in weight and fought to a draw to diminish Charlo(which I see you do a lot, probably because he is PBC).

                Lemiux is not a better fighter than Charlo, I can break it down from a technical standpoint why he would lose, but he would lose.

                Who has Andrade, Crawford, or Jermall Charlo fought that is better than Castano? Don't worry I'll wait while you try to explain how Jeff Horn is a better fighter because he had a controversial one off win against Pac and did nothing afterwards since you think so highly of Jeff Horn. Vanes Martirosyan is Andrade's best win who Jermell Charlo also beat. Jermall Charlo's best win is probably Julian Williams when he was unbeaten. Castano is literally better than any of those guys bro.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #88
                  Tony Harrison beat Charlo.

                  Some loser welterweight who’s 17-3 moved up in weight after getting knocked out by a nobody and fought to a draw with Harrison.

                  Lemieux is better than Jermell Charlo. He’s also two divisions north and would knock Charlo out. Go ahead and break it down but if you come to the conclusion that 154 pound Charlo would beat 168 pound Lemieux, you’re wrong.

                  Better than Castano:

                  Crawford’s resume: Jeff Horn, Viktor Postol, Yurikos Gamboa, Ricky Burns, Julius Indongo, Jose Benavidez, Amir Khan, Kell Brook.

                  Andrade’s resume: Walter Kautwondoka, Maciej Sulecki, Luke Keeler (outclassed the guy who outclassed a former unified 154 pound champion who beat a guy Castano fought to a draw against), Liam Williams.

                  Charlo’s resume: Sergey Derevyanchenko, Julian Williams, Austin Trout.

                  Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva

                  I actually don't knock fighters for losing, newrly every great fighter in history has lost at least once, some have losses to journeyman. It happens in a sport where one punch can end a fight. You are saying Tomy Harrison moved up in weight and fought to a draw to diminish Charlo(which I see you do a lot, probably because he is PBC).

                  Lemiux is not a better fighter than Charlo, I can break it down from a technical standpoint why he would lose, but he would lose.

                  Who has Andrade, Crawford, or Jermall Charlo fought that is better than Castano? Don't worry I'll wait while you try to explain how Jeff Horn is a better fighter because he had a controversial one off win against Pac and did nothing afterwards since you think so highly of Jeff Horn. Vanes Martirosyan is Andrade's best win who Jermell Charlo also beat. Jermall Charlo's best win is probably Julian Williams when he was unbeaten. Castano is literally better than any of those guys bro.

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                  • Dallas' 4 Eva
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    Tony Harrison beat Charlo.

                    Some loser welterweight who’s 17-3 moved up in weight after getting knocked out by a nobody and fought to a draw with Harrison.

                    Lemieux is better than Jermell Charlo. He’s also two divisions north and would knock Charlo out. Go ahead and break it down but if you come to the conclusion that 154 pound Charlo would beat 168 pound Lemieux, you’re wrong.

                    Better than Castano:

                    Crawford’s resume: Jeff Horn, Viktor Postol, Yurikos Gamboa, Ricky Burns, Julius Indongo, Jose Benavidez, Amir Khan, Kell Brook.

                    Andrade’s resume: Walter Kautwondoka, Maciej Sulecki, Luke Keeler (outclassed the guy who outclassed a former unified 154 pound champion who beat a guy Castano fought to a draw against), Liam Williams.

                    Charlo’s resume: Sergey Derevyanchenko, Julian Williams, Austin Trout.



                    You know what... I see what you are doing. Have a good day sir.

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                      #90
                      What am I doing besides pointing out that 154 is trash?

                      Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva


                      You know what... I see what you are doing. Have a good day sir.

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