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  • Mammoth
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    #31
    Originally posted by jonnyc420

    Did you do it before he retired? Everytime his name was brought up did you say "drug cheat!"?
    Absolutely....... Wasn't a time that went by when somebody brought him up back then I didn't yell it immediately at the sound of his name......

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #32
      Originally posted by Alf Stewart

      Yep he’s 100 times better than Ruiz….





      that is just plain silly

      Ruiz is obviously a much better heavyweight than Usyk, which is why Fury made that comment

      Ruiz would stretch out Usyk like a used condom







      ...

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      • lion33lit
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        #33
        50/50 fight. Styles make fights. Joshua may have the hardest time trying to “walk through” Usyk. And let’s not get it twisted, he hurt Chisora and did win a hard fought fight. Fury’s hallucinating.

        It’s kinda obvious that Chisora doesn’t expand his arsenal, he’s content on telegraphing big shots. It makes for dramatic looking fights, but it also keeps him at gatekeeper status. Nice guy more importantly.

        Is Fury convinced that ‘heavy weight’ automatically wins everything by simply walking through the smaller guy? Maybe now I can believe he has legit mental health issues.... Usyk’s a very good boxer that moves his head and can take a good shot. Tyson hasn’t observed that? ....I think Usyk even beats Ruiz....

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        • Joeboxeo
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          #34
          A.J needs the smallest possible ring against Usyk, otherwise he will be out boxed. Hearn knows it

          Usyk by MD

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          • BeLikeWater
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            #35
            What fury said...

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            • mawoodhouse
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              #36
              Let’s be honest, Usyk was an A class Cruiser, but he has only proven so far to be a C+/B- level Heavyweight. He has struggled with Witherspoon and Chisora and couldn’t hurt them at all. Joshua flattens him.

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                #37
                Originally posted by lion33lit
                50/50 fight. Styles make fights. Joshua may have the hardest time trying to “walk through” Usyk. And let’s not get it twisted, he hurt Chisora and did win a hard fought fight. Fury’s hallucinating.

                It’s kinda obvious that Chisora doesn’t expand his arsenal, he’s content on telegraphing big shots. It makes for dramatic looking fights, but it also keeps him at gatekeeper status. Nice guy more importantly.

                Is Fury convinced that ‘heavy weight’ automatically wins everything by simply walking through the smaller guy? Maybe now I can believe he has legit mental health issues.... Usyk’s a very good boxer that moves his head and can take a good shot. Tyson hasn’t observed that? ....I think Usyk even beats Ruiz....
                At a certain level size becomes a big issue. We even seen Floyd vs Logan Floyd obviously 100% more skilled but logan was able to maul and big man his way through the fight pretty easily.

                Obviously there's exceptions but Joshua is just so much bigger and stronger and if he imposes his size it's gonna be a real issue for Usyk.

                Usyk did fight a heavy guy in Chisora but Chisora lacks in so many areas compared to AJ he's arguably only got a bit better chin and more stamina but AJ is levels above everywhere else.

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Heru
                  Usyk’s ring generalship, stamina, and defense gives him a distinct advantage over most heavyweights; not Chisora, whose stamina, chin, aggression, and workrate was a bad matchup for him.

                  Joshua’s stamina makes him vulnerable and he’s learning to pace himself, but it leaves the door open for a Usyk to take advantage. I still have Joshua taking it, but painting Usyk to be a scrub, when he’s a former Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champ, that packs on a fit 230, is misleading from Fury. He’s trying to downplay the quality of Joshua’s next opponent, but how well did Fury do against a similarly fast southpaw with good stamina and workrate?
                  If Usyk comes in at 230 it's a massive mistake. He was 217 vs Chisora and there were times when he looked right on the edge of his gas tank and like he'd lost a step, piling in another 13lbs of useless weight would be deeply concerning to me.
                  He should come in as light as possible and fight a fast paced agile style, if he turns up at 230 I think it's a very easy night for AJ.

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                  • Lupara
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                    #39
                    Not sure how this Usyk struggled against Chisroa and friggin' Witherspoon narrative came from

                    Not once was it ever not clear who was superior in both fights

                    Boxing fans truly are nuts

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by steeve steel
                      Usyk's speed will be a problem for AJ, as was Ruiz. And although Usyk doesn't have the same power, he is a better boxer.
                      It's not so much how hard Usyk hits as much as, how soft is AJs head. So far, everybody that has landed has made an impression.

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