Comments Thread For: Spence Backs Wilder To Beat Fury, Says Americans Need To Root For American Fighters

[The D3vil]

Considering Marx took most of Engels credit, you have no clue what you are talking about, personal and private property are one in the same, have you even read das kapital?

Yes, I have read "Das Kapital"

And no, Private Property and Personal Property are not "one in the same"

Personal versus private property


In political/economic theory, notably socialist, Marxist, and most anarchist philosophies, the distinction between private and personal property is extremely important. Which items of property constitute which is open to debate. In some economic systems, such as capitalism, private and personal property are considered to be exactly equivalent.

• Personal property or possessions includes "items intended for personal use" (e.g., one's toothbrush, clothes, and vehicles, and sometimes rarely money).^[3] It must be gained in a socially fair manner, and the owner has a distributive right to exclude others.
• Private property is a social relationship between the owner and persons deprived, i.e. not a relationship between person and thing. Private property may include artifacts, factories, mines, dams, infrastructure, natural vegetation, mountains, deserts and seas—these generate capital for the owner without the owner having to perform any labour. Conversely, those who perform labour using somebody else's private property are deprived of the value of their work, and are instead given a salary that is disjointed from the value generated by the worker.
• In Marxist theory, the term private property typically refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services.^[4][5]

[The D3vil]

I never said the Chinese were traditional Marxists, but they were truly communist, and communism is a direct result of Marxist theories, every country that has ever implemented socialism, has ended up in a brutal communist regime, u don't see the correlation there? And no, just cos you're friends with the ghost of Robert Kardashian doesn't make u an expert on the Armenian genocide, but what it will do is give u a good understanding of what happened when the ottomans butchered over a million of them. Again I don't need to read Karl Marx to understand any of his theories because his theories have been available to the public for over a hundred years. I've never read it out of my deep hatred for the man who was the direct link for the deaths of millions of people worldwide in the last century, it was my choice, nothing to do with laziness, and you're attempt to discredit me through my admiration of trump's policies shows your the real lazy mf, if u actually knew what he did for the black community during his presidency u would change your tune, also the fact that he was the first president to not have a war during his presidency ****s on all the never Trumpers opinions of him as a dangerous man with white supremacists views, he was the one who put right *****s decision to place countless black men into jail with huge sentences for small crimes, yet u believe ***** is a god compared to trump, also I don't believe a guy who isn't an American can be a Trumper, but can definitely understand his policies we're good for everyone, and u can see that now with the fact america is turning to **** as soon as he left, and all the things the extreme left s**t on him for are now being put into place, take ******'s speech in Guatemala for an example, trump says that stuff and it's racist, ****** says it and she's stunning and brave. But the Marxist media has been doing that for years now. My whole point in all of this was lebron is a danger to America with his disgusting tweets, yet twitter remove trump for his truthful tweets, u can't deny this but u will anyway with your uninformed bs

Once again, you're just making more excuses to remain ignorant.

Oh yeah, "I'm just going to not learn about this thing that I hate so much because I hate it so much",

That's clown shxt, guy.

You attribute all the deaths happen in Communist countries to Communism, but do you blame all deaths that happen in capitalist countries on Capitalism?

Do you blame America's astronomical murder rate on Capitalism

Or the millions of people killed in America's endless wars around the world?

Or the millions of people who die from not having health care?

Or the people who die from anxiety & depression?

Have you asked yourself why most of the happiest countries in the world also happen to be some of the most socialist countries in the world?

https://www.openculture.com/2020/12/the-uns-world-happiness-report-ranks-socialist-friendly-countries-as-among-the-happiest-in-the-world.html

The UN’s World Happiness Report Ranks “Socialist Friendly” Countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland & Sweden as Among the Happiest in the World

One of the most pernicious, “dangerous, anti-human and soul-crushing” myths in the business world, writes Liz Ryan at Forbes, is the “idiotic nostrum” that has also crept into government and charitable work: “If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it.” The received wisdom is sometimes phrased more cynically as “if you can’t measure it, it didn’t happen,” or more positively as “if you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it.”

But “the important stuff can’t be measured,” says Ryan. Don’t we all want to believe that? “Can’t Buy Me Love” and so forth. Maybe it’s not that simple, either. Take happiness, for example. We might say we disagree about its relative importance, but we all go about the business of trying to buy happiness anyway. In our hearts of hearts, it’s a more or less an unquestionable good. So why does it seem so scarce and seem to cost so much? Maybe the problem is not that happiness can’t be measured but that it can’t be commodified.







Buddhist economies like Bhutan, for example, run on a GHI (Gross National Happiness) index instead of GDP, and pose the question of whether the issue of national happiness is one of priorities. In other words, “you get what you measure.” In March, Laura Begley Bloom cited the 20 happiest countries in the world at Forbes, using the UN’s 2020 World Happiness Report, “a landmark survey of the state of global happiness,” as the report’s website describes it, “that ranks 156 countries by how happy their citizens perceive themselves to be.”



Happiness is measured across urban and rural environments and according to environmental quality and sustainable development metrics. The report uses six rubrics to assess happiness—levels of GDP, life expectancy, generosity, social support, freedom and corruption, and income. Their assessment relied on self-reporting, to give “a direct voice to the population as opposed the more top-down approach of deciding ex-ante what ought to matter.” The last chapter attempts to account for the so-called “Nordic Exception,” or the puzzling fact that “Nordic countries are constantly among the happiest in the world.”

Maybe this fact is only puzzling if you begin with the assumption that wealthy capitalist economies promote happiness. But the top ten happiest countries are wealthy “socialist friendly” mixed economies, as Bill Maher jokes in the clip at the top, saying that in the U.S. “the right has a hard time understanding we don’t want long lines for bread socialism, we want that you don’t have to win the lotto to afford brain surgery socialism.” This is comedy, not trenchant geo-political analysis, but it alludes to another significant fact.

Most of the world’s unhappiest countries and cities are formerly colonized places whose economies, infrastructures, and supply chains have been destabilized by sanctions (which cause long bread lines), bombed out of existence by wealthier countries, and destroyed by climate catastrophes. The report does not fully explore the meaning of this data, focusing, understandably, on what makes populations happy. But an underlying theme is the suggestion that happiness is something we achieve in real, measurable economic relation with each other, not solely in the pursuit of individualist ideals.

[I have no ears]

Once again, you're just making more excuses to remain ignorant.

Oh yeah, "I'm just going to not learn about this thing that I hate so much because I hate it so much",

That's clown shxt, guy.

You attribute all the deaths happen in Communist countries to Communism, but do you blame all deaths that happen in capitalist countries on Capitalism?

Do you blame America's astronomical murder rate on Capitalism

Or the millions of people killed in America's endless wars around the world?

Or the millions of people who die from not having health care?

Or the people who die from anxiety & depression?

Have you asked yourself why most of the happiest countries in the world also happen to be some of the most socialist countries in the world?

https://www.openculture.com/2020/12/the-uns-world-happiness-report-ranks-socialist-friendly-countries-as-among-the-happiest-in-the-world.html

You absolute fool, here u are now defending communism!! I'll give u quick run down of how that's turned out in your utopia's shall I. Lenin killed millions, Stalin killed 30 million, pol pot killed 1.7million or more, Kim jong il killed 1.6 million, ho chi Minh killed 3.7 million, not to mention all the others who suffer under this evil ideology u have been brainwashed to believe is good, Chavez, Castro, and countless African and south American leaders who all thought communism was a good idea but put into practice it literally wipes millions of people off the planet, or forces them to cook there own pets just to survive, infact estimates go as far as 150 million people have been killed by this evil ideology, and ffs Scandinavian countries are not anywhere near socialism friend, that's a ploy to get people like u to start thinking it's a nice friendly way to govern people, they pay high taxes because their higher education, utilities, healthcare, mail and rail and airlines are all state run, that doesn't in the slightest make them socialist, they are complete free market capitalist run societies, even england has a nationalised healthcare system but it's nowhere near socialism in that country and ffs they have f up the whole country because of it, you've been duped and u can't see it because you're brainwashed. U already know I understand communism and socialism very well, I've spelt it out to u already, yet u keep saying I have to read Karl Marx books to understand it, do u know how ****** that makes u sound? Scandinavian countries are happy because they have a low population and they can focus on the needs of there people easier, that's the only reason they rate highly on your g*y study u felt the need to show me for some kind of validation to the epic nonsense you've been spouting, and as there fully westernized countries and not some East asian backward people or African or south American/ Caribbean, they know what there doing and have ran good societies for centuries now. You've proven yourself to be completely brainwashed, I pity u, and I'm also worried by how many others there are of your ilk that are ready to bring western societies to ruin because of it, u seriously should be locked up for your views, it's embarrassing for u that u feel this way and I recommend u do more research before replying to me again or u will just get destroyed further

[HOF Hater]

Spence is absolutely right. It's funny nobody else has a problem when someone from anywhere else supports their countrymen, but the minute an American says we should support another American, all the ret.ards come out with something negative to say.

Let me help you out there, it’s even more frowned upon with African-Americans support African-American fighters. That downright enrages the weak minded. It’s fine when any other group gets tribal and supports their own….Mexican-Americans, British, Nigerians, Filipinos, Australians, Argentines, Boricuas, germans, Russians, etc etc it’s all good. But when the African-Americans support their brethren, our comes the alt right coded phrases like “race baiting”, “racist”, “ldbc”, “playing the race card”, “victimhood”……as we say in Salford, “chatting shyte.”
Im with Spence, support your countrymen and your volk. Just like when Mexican Americans support mexicans and British support “British boxing.”

The issue is not Americans supporting Americans. Its blacks always and ONLY supporting blacks. Then, yes, it becomes an issue of race.

White Americans support fighters of all ethnicities. Mexican fighters support Mexican fighters but even they have standards. For example, Mexicans disowned JCC Jr. UK fans also support their own, sometimes painstakingly so, but they have their own limits as well and are not afraid to take a liking to foreign fighters. Same can be said for Russian fans although Russian fans are most similar to black fans in that they tend to ONLY support their own.

That's why I can't support PBC (no fighters good enough to support anyway) nor can I support Borat ****** GGG or any of the Russian federation

[HOF Hater]

You absolute fool, here u are now defending communism!! I'll give u quick run down of how that's turned out in your utopia's shall I. Lenin killed millions, Stalin killed 30 million, pol pot killed 1.7million or more, Kim jong il killed 1.6 million, ho chi Minh killed 3.7 million, not to mention all the others who suffer under this evil ideology u have been brainwashed to believe is good, Chavez, Castro, and countless African and south American leaders who all thought communism was a good idea but put into practice it literally wipes millions of people off the planet, or forces them to cook there own pets just to survive, infact estimates go as far as 150 million people have been killed by this evil ideology, and ffs Scandinavian countries are not anywhere near socialism friend, that's a ploy to get people like u to start thinking it's a nice friendly way to govern people, they pay high taxes because their higher education, utilities, healthcare, mail and rail and airlines are all state run, that doesn't in the slightest make them socialist, they are complete free market capitalist run societies, even england has a nationalised healthcare system but it's nowhere near socialism in that country and ffs they have f up the whole country because of it, you've been duped and u can't see it because you're brainwashed. U already know I understand communism and socialism very well, I've spelt it out to u already, yet u keep saying I have to read Karl Marx books to understand it, do u know how ****** that makes u sound? Scandinavian countries are happy because they have a low population and they can focus on the needs of there people easier, that's the only reason they rate highly on your g*y study u felt the need to show me for some kind of validation to the epic nonsense you've been spouting, and as there fully westernized countries and not some East asian backward people or African or south American/ Caribbean, they know what there doing and have ran good societies for centuries now. You've proven yourself to be completely brainwashed, I pity u, and I'm also worried by how many others there are of your ilk that are ready to bring western societies to ruin because of it, u seriously should be locked up for your views, it's embarrassing for u that u feel this way and I recommend u do more research before replying to me again or u will just get destroyed further

The D3vil you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. This bafoon not only has no ears but he also doesn't have a functional mind.

Capitalism (and the resulting corporatism) as well as **********/conservative ideology are responsible for the degradation of mankind through imperialistic agendas, media propaganda, outsourcing of labor to exploit cheap/absent labor laws in developing nations, segregation of wealth, and even the advancements in global warming and threat to all living species on this planet.

Oh well, hope we get Crawford Spence before then

[I have no ears]

The D3vil you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. This bafoon not only has no ears but he also doesn't have a functional mind.

Capitalism (and the resulting corporatism) as well as **********/conservative ideology are responsible for the degradation of mankind through imperialistic agendas, media propaganda, outsourcing of labor to exploit cheap/absent labor laws in developing nations, segregation of wealth, and even the advancements in global warming and threat to all living species on this planet.

Oh well, hope we get Crawford Spence before then

Another soy boy comes out the woodwork

[Brumsongs1]

You absolute fool, here u are now defending communism!! I'll give u quick run down of how that's turned out in your utopia's shall I. Lenin killed millions, Stalin killed 30 million, pol pot killed 1.7million or more, Kim jong il killed 1.6 million, ho chi Minh killed 3.7 million, not to mention all the others who suffer under this evil ideology u have been brainwashed to believe is good, Chavez, Castro, and countless African and south American leaders who all thought communism was a good idea but put into practice it literally wipes millions of people off the planet, or forces them to cook there own pets just to survive, infact estimates go as far as 150 million people have been killed by this evil ideology, and ffs Scandinavian countries are not anywhere near socialism friend, that's a ploy to get people like u to start thinking it's a nice friendly way to govern people, they pay high taxes because their higher education, utilities, healthcare, mail and rail and airlines are all state run, that doesn't in the slightest make them socialist, they are complete free market capitalist run societies, even england has a nationalised healthcare system but it's nowhere near socialism in that country and ffs they have f up the whole country because of it, you've been duped and u can't see it because you're brainwashed. U already know I understand communism and socialism very well, I've spelt it out to u already, yet u keep saying I have to read Karl Marx books to understand it, do u know how ****** that makes u sound? Scandinavian countries are happy because they have a low population and they can focus on the needs of there people easier, that's the only reason they rate highly on your g*y study u felt the need to show me for some kind of validation to the epic nonsense you've been spouting, and as there fully westernized countries and not some East asian backward people or African or south American/ Caribbean, they know what there doing and have ran good societies for centuries now. You've proven yourself to be completely brainwashed, I pity u, and I'm also worried by how many others there are of your ilk that are ready to bring western societies to ruin because of it, u seriously should be locked up for your views, it's embarrassing for u that u feel this way and I recommend u do more research before replying to me again or u will just get destroyed further

He's absolutely schooled you throughout this discussion and your self-aggrandizing rhetoric rather proves it.

[I have no ears]

He's absolutely schooled you throughout this discussion and your self-aggrandizing rhetoric rather proves it.

Yea I did state I was worried how many of you socialist soy boys were out there, just never assumed boxing enthusiast's would be some of them, and by schooled u mean claim Scandinavia is socialist and continuously say I have to read Karl Marx to understand socialism, in the words of your dear leader, come on man, go back to reddit f*g

[I have no ears]

He's absolutely schooled you throughout this discussion and your self-aggrandizing rhetoric rather proves it.

Okay devil's new alt account, I'll bite, how have I been schooled in this debate and how have I made my self look important in any way

[FLY TY]

The issue is not Americans supporting Americans. Its blacks always and ONLY supporting blacks. Then, yes, it becomes an issue of race.

White Americans support fighters of all ethnicities. Mexican fighters support Mexican fighters but even they have standards. For example, Mexicans disowned JCC Jr. UK fans also support their own, sometimes painstakingly so, but they have their own limits as well and are not afraid to take a liking to foreign fighters. Same can be said for Russian fans although Russian fans are most similar to black fans in that they tend to ONLY support their own.

That's why I can't support PBC (no fighters good enough to support anyway) nor can I support Borat ****** GGG or any of the Russian federation

You don't support the PBC? Hmmmm. I wonder why?