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Word on the street is Manny Pacquiao is doing his entire camp in the Philippines without Freddie Roach for Errol Spence is this good or bad?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by TJ highway View Post

    LOL! Freddie Roach hate.

    You all forget Freddy was was trained but the late great Eddie Futch. Who is Eddie Futch?

    Eddie Futch was an Hall of Fame trainer. He trained fighters to perform at the highest levels for several decades. Champions who worked under Futch's tutelage include Smoking Joe Frazier, Larry Homes, Rid**** Bowe, Michael Spinks, Alexis Arguello,Marlon Starling, Wayne McCullough and Montell Griffin. His first world champion fighter was Don Jordan world welterweight champion in 1958.

    Futch noted that Ali often leaned his head away from punches. Ali would not do that with his body, so the boxing proverb 'kill the body and the head dies' became the plan"

    Futch said that Frazier should wear down Ali with persistent body punches.Which was something he was not used to doing, Futch also believed that Frazier's constant bobbing and weaving would make Ali uncomfortable because he would often have to punch down at Frazier's head (Ali almost never threw body punches).

    Finally, Futch noticed that Ali's uppercuts were sloppily and technically incorrectly (Futch said Ali threw what he thought were uppercuts). He instructed Frazier to throw a left hook over the top of Ali's right uppercuts and told Smoking Joe to beat Ali to the punch when doing so.

    An exhausted Ali opened the 15th round by throwing a half-heated uppercut, Frazier feinted a left and then unleashed a huge sweeping left hook at Ali's head, which floored him and created one of the most famous knock-downs in boxing history.

    Freddie was not a Hall of Fame boxer but his training might be.
    no hate!! i said "at this point" freddie cant do much for manny as proven!! what has roach done to improve manny in the last 5 years? NOTHING!! i am not taking any credit away from roach. i said freddie was good with manny early on when pac teamed up with roach but at this point, roach has already taught manny all he knows. roach hasnt come up with a good game plan for pac in years... look at who roach brought in as sparring partners for manny for the floyd fight, a damm mma fighter!!

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    • #32
      Here something about Manny though. Manny’s physically training but his mind is still in politics. He’s losing and losing in his presidential campaign and it’s getting under his skin. His political advisors are distracting his mind. There is no Spence and boxing in him, just all politics. His chances in this fight is going from zero to negative

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      • #33
        Word on the street is a notoriously inaccurate source.
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        • #34
          Called it lol.

          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
          Word on the street is a notoriously inaccurate source.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by hectari View Post
            I heard that Pacquiao is not going to America to train and will do his entire camp in the Philippines without Freddie Roach, it seems now that he is only taking the Spence fight for a last pay check and not taking it serious at all.
            Hectari News is always correct.

            HNN is as reliable as the National enquirer.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
              Called it lol.


              Hectaris sources so far:

              Pac is only training in Philippines.

              Pac is training without Roach.

              pac-spence won't have press tour.

              Pac-spence won't do big ppv.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by TJ highway View Post

                LOL! Freddie Roach hate.

                You all forget Freddy was was trained but the late great Eddie Futch. Who is Eddie Futch?

                Eddie Futch was an Hall of Fame trainer. He trained fighters to perform at the highest levels for several decades. Champions who worked under Futch's tutelage include Smoking Joe Frazier, Larry Homes, Rid**** Bowe, Michael Spinks, Alexis Arguello,Marlon Starling, Wayne McCullough and Montell Griffin. His first world champion fighter was Don Jordan world welterweight champion in 1958.

                Futch noted that Ali often leaned his head away from punches. Ali would not do that with his body, so the boxing proverb 'kill the body and the head dies' became the plan"

                Futch said that Frazier should wear down Ali with persistent body punches.Which was something he was not used to doing, Futch also believed that Frazier's constant bobbing and weaving would make Ali uncomfortable because he would often have to punch down at Frazier's head (Ali almost never threw body punches).

                Finally, Futch noticed that Ali's uppercuts were sloppily and technically incorrectly (Futch said Ali threw what he thought were uppercuts). He instructed Frazier to throw a left hook over the top of Ali's right uppercuts and told Smoking Joe to beat Ali to the punch when doing so.

                An exhausted Ali opened the 15th round by throwing a half-heated uppercut, Frazier feinted a left and then unleashed a huge sweeping left hook at Ali's head, which floored him and created one of the most famous knock-downs in boxing history.

                Freddie was not a Hall of Fame boxer but his training might be.
                Trainers are rarely great fighters.

                Same with coaches in other sports.

                Great athletes usually have a physical advantage and gift.

                That physical gift doesn translate to the boxers they train usually.

                Also fighters that are physically gifted usually are lacking in fundamentals.

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                • #38
                  they been talking about pac had problems in his camp for every fight going back 12 years as whatever hype strategy for the fight that pac might not show up 100% but i havent seen anything really affect the fights.

                  pac is staying in philipines to complete his PED cycles and stay away from vada.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by elfag View Post
                    they been talking about pac had problems in his camp for every fight going back 12 years as whatever hype strategy for the fight that pac might not show up 100% but i havent seen anything really affect the fights.

                    pac is staying in philipines to complete his PED cycles and stay away from vada.
                    Pac has been in l.a. training

                    Pac has taken his vada tests already

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                    • #40
                      Pac camp distraction stories since ledwaba win 2001

                      1. Partying
                      2. Hookers
                      3. Drinking
                      4. Shooting pool
                      5. Basketball
                      6. Congress
                      7. Senate
                      8. Now presidential candidacy
                      9. Converting from catholic
                      10. Darts
                      ​​11. Love child
                      12. Possible Divorce

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