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  • #21
    Originally posted by GucciGod View Post

    Lmao! Face palm moment! How has he improved exactly? In which areas are you seeing these improvements? All I see is a mentally fragile fighter who doesn’t know wether to box and move or stand and trade. He’s literally fought a walking COVID patient who was 39-40 in pulev. I think casual fans are trying to take over this forum by spamming silly comments with no substance.
    I think that's unfair. He got straight back in with Ruiz where Fury and Wilder both needed a break to rematch. Didn't Fury have 2 fights after hitting the canvas twice? Also AJ doesn't need to eat "uncastrated wild boar" to win. And when AJ lost - he said he deserved to lose - he made changes and came back. He didn't blame it on a heavy costume/flu/rigged gloves etc Seems like AJ is the most mentally stable of the top 3...
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    • #22
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

      I think that's unfair. He got straight back in with Ruiz where Fury and Wilder both needed a break to rematch. Didn't Fury have 2 fights after hitting the canvas twice? Also AJ doesn't need to eat "uncastrated wild boar" to win. And when AJ lost - he said he deserved to lose - he made changes and came back. He didn't blame it on a heavy costume/flu/rigged gloves etc Seems like AJ is the most mentally stable of the top 3...
      Wilder and fury needed a break? Did you see the shape fury was in? You are clueless. Joshua didn’t dare fight wilder that’s the point isn’t it. That’s why fury had too. Joshua lost all respect when losing to Ruiz, he literally HAD to get Ruiz next. So why does he get praise for fighting and losing to Ruiz then beating a fat lazy out of shape un motivated Ruiz in the rematch.

      also you didn’t actually say where his skill set has improved, praising him for fighting isnt saying how he improved. That’s just praising an athlete for doing they’re job?

      made changes? NO RUIZ changed! That’s why the fight was different. If you say that was a “boxing masterclass” in Saudi you don’t have the first clue. That ain’t good enough for Usyk and you’ll soon see. Obviously aj and Eddie know that’s why they won’t fight him without a rematch clause. Confidence is shot. One more loss and aj is done. Atleast wilder lost to a top top fighter and not a fat guy.
      Last edited by GucciGod; 06-10-2021, 04:17 AM.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

        Does he? Since when? Usyk has nothing for Joshua to worry about.
        Are are very optimistic.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

          I think that's unfair. He got straight back in with Ruiz where Fury and Wilder both needed a break to rematch. Didn't Fury have 2 fights after hitting the canvas twice? Also AJ doesn't need to eat "uncastrated wild boar" to win. And when AJ lost - he said he deserved to lose - he made changes and came back. He didn't blame it on a heavy costume/flu/rigged gloves etc Seems like AJ is the most mentally stable of the top 3...
          You can never vouch for any boxer, i know they are innocent until they are found to have tested dirty but please don't vouch for any boxer when it comes to PED.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post

            Not necessarily there buddy. AJ has problems with the style Usyk has. TBD
            Why do you say that? Who has he fought that is up there in terms of ability that Usyk displayed (at Cruiserweight)? In my opinion, both fighters are taking on something entirely new.

            Usyk has never faced someone as big and powerful as AJ. Chazz and Del Boy haven't prepared Usyk for AJ.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              The pressure is on Joshua not to get outboxed and lose and see the gravy train come to a crashing halt.
              You and your dumb mentality about losing and gravy train, that's why some American boxers don't want to take a risk and take fights that might be competitive, He would get outbox against Usyk but would Usyk get the decision doe? Another thing that i don't like about Usyk is the weight that he is adding on, which might make him a bit slower, but as long as it isn't too much then i expect his timing to be there, his stamina to be better, like someone else pointed out AJ like to take breaks, if Usyk can push that then he would have a great chance at getting the W.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by GucciGod View Post

                Wilder and fury needed a break? Did you see the shape fury was in? You are clueless. Joshua didn’t dare fight wilder that’s the point isn’t it. That’s why fury had too. Joshua lost all respect when losing to Ruiz, he literally HAD to get Ruiz next. So why does he get praise for fighting and losing to Ruiz then beating a fat lazy out of shape un motivated Ruiz in the rematch.

                also you didn’t actually say where his skill set has improved, praising him for fighting isnt saying how he improved. That’s just praising an athlete for doing they’re job?

                made changes? NO RUIZ changed! That’s why the fight was different. If you say that was a “boxing masterclass” in Saudi you don’t have the first clue. That ain’t good enough for Usyk and you’ll soon see. Obviously aj and Eddie know that’s why they won’t fight him without a rematch clause. Confidence is shot. One more loss and aj is done. Atleast wilder lost to a top top fighter and not a fat guy.
                Bro, you are wrong on so many points here.

                Joshua lost all respect with his haters but from what I see on here, he never had it with them anyway - so he's not losing out. A lot of experts, pro's and former pro's gave Joshua his props for immediately re-matching.

                Both of them changed. Ruiz was obviously expecting the same AJ and had the mindset that he could gain weight, hold centre and go for the stoppage again if AJ met him in the middle. AJ changed his style totally. He boxed and moved like he never had done before. You have to be blind or a hater, not to see that. His tank had improved and he managed the fight at this pace and distance. A total outclassing from a knockout machine.

                Joshua did to Ruiz, what Fury did to Klitshcko. End of. No way its Joshua's fault for Ruiz not being prepared. Many people consider Fury's win over Klitschko to be a masterclass. Its not one rule for one, and not another. AJ Ruiz 2 was 119-109, 118-110, 118-110. That is a hammering. Fury v Wlad was 116-111, 115-112, 115 - 112. You tell me which was more one-sided!?

                Do you honestly think that contractual rematch clauses are unique to Anthony Joshua? You can't stand the idea of it because you can only bring hate to the table, not objectivity.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

                  Bro, you are wrong on so many points here.

                  Joshua lost all respect with his haters but from what I see on here, he never had it with them anyway - so he's not losing out. A lot of experts, pro's and former pro's gave Joshua his props for immediately re-matching.

                  Both of them changed. Ruiz was obviously expecting the same AJ and had the mindset that he could gain weight, hold centre and go for the stoppage again if AJ met him in the middle. AJ changed his style totally. He boxed and moved like he never had done before. You have to be blind or a hater, not to see that. His tank had improved and he managed the fight at this pace and distance. A total outclassing from a knockout machine.

                  Joshua did to Ruiz, what Fury did to Klitshcko. End of. No way its Joshua's fault for Ruiz not being prepared. Many people consider Fury's win over Klitschko to be a masterclass. Its not one rule for one, and not another. AJ Ruiz 2 was 119-109, 118-110, 118-110. That is a hammering. Fury v Wlad was 116-111, 115-112, 115 - 112. You tell me which was more one-sided!?

                  Do you honestly think that contractual rematch clauses are unique to Anthony Joshua? You can't stand the idea of it because you can only bring hate to the table, not objectivity.
                  Nah. Lennox lewis and many other British legends made clear his performance wasn’t good enough. That hurt Joshua, who procedeed to call Lennox a “clown”. Joshua lost face with neutrals and hardcore fans for his lack of courage. All the excuses in the world as to why he wouldn’t fight in the US. he then cherry picked Ruiz hoping that Andy was happy with a pay day and it backfired. You tell me what options Joshua had after losing to Ruiz? Wilder fury was tied up. So where did he have to go? You do understand that he beat a faded un motivated Ruiz don’t you? And even then Joshua was afraid to enagage and fought very negatively all night, after he had claimed the way fury fought WLAD was “boring”. I don’t like hypocrites is all. Don’t you, ya trainer and promoter all claim you can’t fight in America against wilder as its key for your progression to be fighting at home, and then go try fight the likes of miller or Ruiz in America.

                  that’s where the dislike of aj came into it.
                  people dislike it when a guy loves mando fights when you’ve helped the order of the mandos like they did with Povetkin and pulev) but once a decent fighter pops up, mandos are a headache? People don’t like how we’ve always gotta hear Eddie speak for Joshua, he never gives his own sound bites.

                  people dislike racists. Joshua has had a few of those moments. So none of the dislike towards Hearn and Joshua is without substance. They’ve caught themselves in lie after lie.

                  why did Joshua and Hearn tell everybody wilder wasn’t worth no more than 12.5M

                  but fury should of paid £20M for wilder to just shut up and postpone his shot?

                  that’s the hypocrisy right there.
                  whys Joshua all of a sudden done everything to make the fury fight, but did EVERYTHING to ensure the fight with wilder DIDNT HAPPEN.

                  why they telling everyone that all they’ve ever wanted was UNDISPUTED, yet went out they’re way to avoid wilder? Amazing how they didn’t just shut up give him that split percentage and made the fight.

                  A mandatory fight doesn’t require any rematch clauses. A true champ who believes in his abilities would still fight that challenger even if a rematch clause couldn’t be agreed! They wouldn’t strop and tell em oh well I’ll vacate then! Trying to monopolise the titles!

                  Crazy how after AJ-Ruiz II Eddie and Joshua had no interest in the 3rd fight, but soon as Usyk popped up they was talking to Andy! Lmao. People dislike lying cowards.

                  floyd didn’t put rematches in every fight, manny didn’t and also many other great fighters and names didn’t! Truth is that camps fragile mentally!

                  Just like how they’re saying they’d of signed to fight wilder after the fury fight if need be!

                  yet when wilder told Hearn ok, I’ll fight Whyte but make sure Joshua is a condition in that contract for me next and Eddie and Joshua said no.

                  I could go on all week. Who’d win would you rather have? Joshua in Saudi or Ruiz in MSG?

                  enough said!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Ray* View Post

                    You and your dumb mentality about losing and gravy train, that's why some American boxers don't want to take a risk and take fights that might be competitive, He would get outbox against Usyk but would Usyk get the decision doe? Another thing that i don't like about Usyk is the weight that he is adding on, which might make him a bit slower, but as long as it isn't too much then i expect his timing to be there, his stamina to be better, like someone else pointed out AJ like to take breaks, if Usyk can push that then he would have a great chance at getting the W.
                    100%.
                    Usyk moving up in quality too quickly here. Witherspoon to Chisora to Joshua??? I give him props for chasing the fight but I fear that it will be too soon. Who has he faced with Joshua's power before?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

                      100%.
                      Usyk moving up in quality too quickly here. Witherspoon to Chisora to Joshua??? I give him props for chasing the fight but I fear that it will be too soon. Who has he faced with Joshua's power before?
                      The thing is power is nothing if you cannot land it properly, Chisora for all his shortcoming pushes the fight to you. He keeps coming at you until he is tired, for me he has a better stamina than AJ. If Usyk pushes AJ for the first 7/8 rounds i can see AJ getting knackered and gassing out.

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