Is Pacquiao a cheater?

[DaNeutral.]

Yep of course he is but just like Floyd and many others who are or were clear cheats it won’t be proven to a point it takes anything off their glittering records so all we got is being salty fkkers on a forum

[Stuntman Mike]

If Floyd goes back and beats Canelo at 160 Pacquiao has to go back and beat Margarito and Oscar at their respective weights. Anyway you look at it Floyd is the superior boxer and deep inside everyone knows it.

Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0

Draws

Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0

Catchweights

Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito

Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez

Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0

Times Knocked Out or TKO
Pac 3
May 0

Times Knocked Unconscious
Pac 1
May 0

KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54

Opponents Fought 2 or more times

Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera, Morales, Marquez
12 Fights

Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights

Vacant Titles Fought For

Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights

Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights

Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat

Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman

Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

Olympic Medals

Pacquiao 0

Mayweather 1 (Bronze)


Notable Opponents who were coming off a loss or being KO

Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)

Mayweather: Judah, Corley

Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win

Mayweather

Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)

Pacquiao

Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3


Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents

Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W

Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W



Opponents with 30+ KOs

Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH SM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO

Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO

Career Earnings
Pacquiao 490M
Mayweather 800M

PPVs over 2M
Pacquiao 1
Mayweather

Mayweather 4
ODLH *McGregor Canelo Pacquiao

PPVs Against Similar Opponents
Pac/Cotto 1.25
May/Cotto 1.5

Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
May/De La Hoya 2.4M

Pac/Mosley 1.3M
May/Mosley 1.4M

Marquez/May 1M
Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M

Pac/Hatton 850K
May/Hatton 850K

Promoted Fighters Who’ve Won World Titles

May 4
Smith, Jack, Davis, Bey

Pac 0

Fair play about the opponents but the business side is pathetic and petty

Who gives a crap if either has promoted a fighter to win a vacant handed over world title cmon man

Really lame post

[Idunnoshet]

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I keep seeing threads about Floyd IV and that’s fair. Let’s take a look at the other side now. This has never been addressed by the boxing media. “Pacquiao use of Bupivicane, Lidocaine, PRP treatment, Toradal, and Celestone were disclosed.”
Bupivicane is used to numb the pain during pregnancy and spinal surgery. Celestone Solupan is a steroid that treats low adrenal gland hormones.The entire time it was him using lidocaine not Floyd. Thats a lot of drugs for someone who is supposedly against drug usage. How long has Pacquiao been consuming these drugs?

Highly Suspect.
But never proven.

[Spoon23]

No, he is not a cheater. All of those medications are used to treat some type of pain. They are not performance enhancers.

Exactly. Pac was and is always clean.

[Amir Imam]

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You're the biggest bum in the history of boxingscene. I just gave you videos where unbiased boxing insiders have Pac far above Floyd and very high on all time lists. You're a biased bum and a useless dosser.

You your bike bum

Anyone can do that.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

if we're being real most boxers cheat

Yeah the vast, vast majority of athletes do.

[Amir Imam]

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No, he is not a cheater. All of those medications are used to treat some type of pain. They are not performance enhancers.

Celestone Soluspan is a steroid. The commission knew exactly what he was trying to do. Lol

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If Floyd goes back and beats Canelo at 160 Pacquiao has to go back and beat Margarito and Oscar at their respective weights. Anyway you look at it Floyd is the superior boxer and deep inside everyone knows it.

Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0

Draws

Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0

Catchweights

Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito

Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez

Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0

Times Knocked Out or TKO
Pac 3
May 0

Times Knocked Unconscious
Pac 1
May 0

KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54

Opponents Fought 2 or more times

Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera, Morales, Marquez
12 Fights

Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights

Vacant Titles Fought For

Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights

Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights

Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat

Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman

Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

Olympic Medals

Pacquiao 0

Mayweather 1 (Bronze)


Notable Opponents who were coming off a loss or being KO

Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)

Mayweather: Judah, Corley

Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win

Mayweather

Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)

Pacquiao

Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3


Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents

Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W

Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W



Opponents with 30+ KOs

Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH SM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO

Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO

Career Earnings
Pacquiao 490M
Mayweather 800M

PPVs over 2M
Pacquiao 1
Mayweather

Mayweather 4
ODLH *McGregor Canelo Pacquiao

PPVs Against Similar Opponents
Pac/Cotto 1.25
May/Cotto 1.5

Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
May/De La Hoya 2.4M

Pac/Mosley 1.3M
May/Mosley 1.4M

Marquez/May 1M
Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M

Pac/Hatton 850K
May/Hatton 850K

Promoted Fighters Who’ve Won World Titles

May 4
Smith, Jack, Davis, Bey

Pac 0

I’m not sure whether this is impressive or really sad.

[hugh grant]

If Manny goes and beats Spence and Crawford he will be always spoken as an ATG especially at the age he did it. Then they will say regardless all those victories Floyd beat him easy. The more Pac wins the better Floyd looks.

Pac goes onto beat thurman and then perhaps spence then he will be seen as GOAT. People won't be talking about Floyd unless it's to ask him to come out of retirement and do what Pac is doing and beat beterbiev and nel o at 168.
The more Pac does, the more people expect of floyd to do. If Pac beats spence, nobody will be thinking of jmm koing pac, Torecampo koing Pac or Bradley beating Pac so why would Floyd having a win over pac be in people's minds?

People will be thinking how come jmm can beat pac but can't beat thurman and spence at 42 like Pac can? Same with floyd. How can Floyd beat pac but not beat young lions at 42 like pac?

[elfag]

Poochiaotards favorite insults was talking about Floyd's lidocaine use. Whoops looks like Poochiao officially admitted to nevada state athletic commission he uses lidocaine and multiple other "allowed" peds.