Manny Pacroids entire career was and is a total lie, completely manufactured, steroid abusing, sore losing, fake injuries, robbed decisions, avoiding steroid testing, cherrypicking, weight draininer.

[#1PaperChamp]

Every great professional fighter through history -- well at least certainly in the recent era (and by "recent" I mean the last several decades), are "manufactured" products on some level. You can say that about all of them. Fighters are more often than not carefully matched. The risk vs reward is almost always weighed. Boxers very often won't fight certain guys until they're ripe for the pickings so to speak. A-sides will use that to their advantage to gain certain advantages (like catchweights). At the end of the day it's a business and it is almost always treated as such.

But average fighters don't become mega stars like Pacquiao. You can't take Jessie Vargas, a solid and very respectable boxer in his own right, and "manufacture" him into a boxing superstar. You have to be a tantalizing talent. Pacquiao is a special, generational talent. Mayweather was a special, generational talent. Canelo is a special, generational talent. Roy Jones. Etc.

I don't understand why we always feel the need to tear down these guys. Enjoy them. Enjoy the greatness. After all it's just entertainment at the end of the day. It's not that serious, obsessing over boxers like this to the point of hatred and the hatred of that boxer's fans. Yes certain fans can be obnoxious and they are best left ignored. But enjoy the fighters. Even if you don't root for them.

Have a good rest of the day.

Wise shit bro

[Damn Wicked]

Manny Pacquiao = One of the greatest fighters ever. He’s a legend.

[FinlandsFinest]

As usual, ******* fans have nothing boxing related to contribute, cannot challenge any of the facts I have stated, so they are left with childish personal insults. "ah sounds like a *****, ah sad bastard , bla bla bla." At least attempt to challenge the facts I have stated, if you can't and are aware that the truth has been stated, just stfu. Simple.

I agree Floyd is a better fighter, he beat Pac.

Im still a fan of the Pacman, both great fighters and legends.

[Ganondorf]

I’ve seen one or two of your posts now and I think they are epic. Lol

Well done, Brizzle!

[MONGOOSE66]

Manny "Mah Sholda Wasah Haat" Pacroids Career Review:

Built an entire Career off of fighting Floyd's leftovers:

Manny's "Amazing Win" Over Oscar "FishnetStockings" De La Hoya:

Pacroids, fought Oscar AFTER Floyd beat him, when Oscar was a totally washed up 35 years old, not satisfied Manny even drained the Floyd leftover De La Hoya to 147. Floyd beat Oscar at 154, un drained, on the back of wins and When Oscar was 34, "the Golden Boy of Boxing" all on Oscars terms, Manny beat a washed up drained and beaten version AFTER Floyd, yet they say Floyd cherry picked Oscar and Manny beat a legend ?

Manny's "Amazing Win" Over Ricky "The Deadly British Bulldog" Hatton:

After Floyd beat an Undefeated (45-0, 32 KO) Champion in Ricky Hatton, *******s said Hatton was flat footed, cherry picked, too slow and Floyd was ducking other tougher fights. Floyd destroyed him, pretty much ended his career and hype. Years later, Manny as always scoops up yet another Floyd Leftover in Hatton, now a beaten man, low on confidence, a champion at nothing, knocks him out and people say "WOW Pacman KO'd a British Legend so easily ! Amazing win ! Pacman always fights the best !" But when Floyd beat him before this and he was undefeated ??? IF THIS WASNT ENOUGH MANNY DRAINED HATTON TO A CATCHWEIGHT 140lbs lmfao , but Floyd beating Hatton at his normal weight when undefeated was a cherrypick ?

Manny's "Amazing Win" Against the Legendary Shane "Prime at 39" Mosley:

After Floyd beat the dangerous 38 YEAR OLD Mosley, despite being wobbled by him twice, people said Mosley was a cherry pick, he was over the hill, way past his prime and that it was an obvious and easy win for Floyd because Mosley was soooo Old at 38. A Year later Manny Beats a 39 YEAR OLD MOSLEY !? and fans say "Wowwww Pacman beat a legend ! Mosley is still fast and powerful but the brilliant Pacman beat him, Pac always fights the best guys in their primes, unlike Mayweather (Who ironically beat the same Mosley a Year Earlier ?)

Manny's "Epic Trilogy and Brave KTFO Loss" To Manuel "the pee drinker" Marquez

Pacroids vs Marquez 1/2

In 2004 Manny faced of against the talented Mexican Marquez, he couldn't control him, got tagged a few and drew. Rematch 2008, once again gets dominated by Marquez, won the 10th round at best but of course like many of Pacroids Robberies he was given the W (He lost and we all know it). Pacman was done with Marquez, he had robbed him and didn't want any more parts of the dangerous Marquez.

Floyd vs Marquez

Fast Forward to September 2011, Floyd comes out of retirement, and decides to face the dangerous Marquez, Floyd absolutely dominates him, a decisive win, an easy win, never looked in any doubt, no robbery just beat him fair and square, easy work. Fans say Marquez was flat footed an easy choiced and another cherry pick.....

Pacroids vs Marquez 3

Seeing this Arum and Manny realise this made Manny look like an idiot, so just 2 MONTHS LATER ! November 2011 they drag Marquez back into the ring. a guy he struggled with and was forced to rob, just got schooled by a mayweather who hopped of the couch TIME FOR A TRILOGY FIGHT ! Manny once again struggles with the guy Floyd made look simple, Pacquiao escaped with ANOTHER controversial majority decision, and much of the crowd booed the final decision.

Thus, we prepare for a fourth fight between these two future Hall of Famers.

Pacroids vs Marquez 4

Manny gets knocked out by the Floyd leftover, in one of the most devastating KO's ever seen in boxing history, his silly wife and half of the Phillipines are in shock and tears and think Pacroids is dead, due to his stiff motionless body, nose pressed firmly into the canvas and not even the usual groggy attempt to stand up we normally see from KO'd fighters, Manny is literally fast asleep, in a trance almost his roided up lifeless body stiff and cold. All this by a guy Floyd schooled with ease a year earlier lol. Fans say "Wow Manny is so brave ! he robbed a guy twice then got KO'd by him , that what boxing is all about, Manny always fights the best, all the greats get KO'd stiff into the mat in their primes, it's part Of BEinG aN aLl TiME LeGenDD", followed by various unfounded excuses about Marquez using steroids ... The irony.

All of these mutual opponents is 99% of what got people wanting Manny vs May, Arum and his team conveniently did not point out the catchweights, drained fighters, cherry picks, and fact that 99% of Pacs big wins were just hollow beaten old fighters that Floyd had taken the souls out of years before, the narrative was simply PAc iS BeAtINg ThEm aSwell aNd Worrseerr hE caN DeSTroy FloYD ! But somehow they also pushed the narrtive that Floyd was cherry picking, in that case if he was ... WHAT WAS PAC PICKING !? the chewed up seeds of the cherries after Floyd had finished them off ?


Pacroids "Excuse's and Lies" Complete compilation:

The Excuses for the times he has been KO'd Stiff, Lost, Dominated or Outclassed:

1. In the lead up to the Floyd fight, Pacroids was on numerous Youtube channels, destroying heavy bags with both hands, destroying sparring partners, ripping RIGHT HOOKS into a heavy bag, doing that bull**** "pup pup pup" nonsense he does to show off his "blistering speed", doing multiple pushups, lifting weights, waving his arms around, smiling and waving with both arms during every press conference, showed fast feet, power in both hands, not a single grimace of pain, constantly stating "ah am redy foh da fyte and ah am in eh gret shayype, I neva fell soo good, ahaha he want tuu fight mee !?", 90 minutes before the fight there was a document brought through asking him if he had ANY INJURY'S TO STATE, he stated he was 100% fit. Then on the way to the ring, he was again smiling, waving and taking damn selfies. He looked fine in the ring, from the 1st round he was swinging and missing just fine, like all of Floyds opponents, he routinely dived in with looping right handers and combinations, he had Floyd on the ropes several times and was ripping into his gloves and elbows with ZERO signs of pain or hesitation, in between rounds NOT ONCE did Freddie cocroach or any of his team ask him how his shoulder felt, cutman never massaged it, he never complained, he came out every round, guns blazing, chasing thin air and getting nailed with check hooks and counter right hands, he looked fine for 12 whole rounds, in his post right interview, there was no sign of pain nor any mention of his "bad shuldahh" he just hilariously stated "I thot I wahn di fytee" much to Kellermans amusement, nobody came over medically to comfort his apparently "severely torn right rotator cuff" which after miraculously throwing over 420 punches with for 12 rounds, you would imagine would be sore as hell atleast ? I mean by that point your arm would feel like it was falling off lol, an hour or so passes, he meets with that scum bag arum and suddenly re-emerges with some bull**** sling thing on his shoulder, massaging it and looking sad , then timidly states some rehearsed line about "I hatt it 3 yr ago , i mean 3 weeks ago maybe in dah 3rd round and ah took 3 day off dah trening and bla bla bla bla bla" What a load of hore****, the guys a straight up LIAR. YOU LOST, DEAL WITH IT LIKE A MAN.
2. When he lost to Erik Morales in their first fight, he said he lost because he wasn’t focused, because he had to wear winning gloves instead of Ceto-Reyes gloves, and because they took blood from him a few days from the fight making his arm weak and his head dizzy. Taking small amounts of blood doesn’t make you weak look at the Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Shane Mosley fight HBO 24/7 captured the random blood testing on film and both fighters never showed any sign of being weakened from it.
3. When Pacquiao fought Juan Manuel Marquez in their first fight he was given a DRAW, and his excuses for not finishing Marquez in the fight after knocking him down 3 times were; he bought cheap thin socks from the 99 cent store and they caused blisters on his feet and broke his hand early in the fight.Real fighters never complain over a blister on their foot (Arturo Gatti fought with two closed eyes and broken hands before and still managed to win and never complained) and as far as him having a broken hand, if that were really true why didn’t Manny acknowledge to Freddie Roach that his hand was hurt? The only time I saw Pacquiao grimace in pain was when Juan Manuel Marquez kept landing straight right hands on his face. The real reason he looked horrible was because Juan Manuel Marquez is a better boxer than him and was beating him badly.
4. When Marquez Knocked him out cold, he later stated that he may have "lost his hunger due to religion and hurting people is not Christian." Then it was, "Politics is very stressful in da Fillipines"

Excuses for refusing to simply take RANDOM BLOOD AND URINE TESTING

1. Blood tests make me week, maybe I can take it 3 days before or 2 weeks before but not the night of the fight. I feel like I am weak after losing 2.5 ML of blood, he's probably lost more blood from cuts and getting Knocked the hell out numerous times in his career than that.
2. I am afraid of needles, AFRAID OF NEEDLES !? He was 36 damn years old, has DONE HIS WN TATTOOS, WITH A DAMN NEEDLE !!!, another load of horse ****.
3. Why I cannot just take the normal test ? Because you're entire career is suspect, going up in weight and getting faster and more powerful is suspect, furthermore, who cares, if you are clean, it doesn't matter whether you know when the test is or not, thats just sports, Mosley took the test and looked just fine.
4. We will not be told what to do, BRO ITS A BLOOD TEST, it takes literally 40 Seconds of your time, feels like a tiny scratch and will allow you to make millions of dollars for the biggest fight of the decade, stfu.
5. My religion is against giving blood, unless for a religious reason or charity. AHHHH so you have given blood before ? it just so happens when the blood will be analysed by a Lab for STEROIDS, you don't give blood ... got it.
6. $40 million dollars upfront to take the test and 60/40 PPV is not enough for me, I want 50/50 and no steroid test , let me come in there with whatever in my system, I'm clean trust me because erm , I am a man of God, You got KTFO by Marquez, your last win was against Algieri and with out Floyd you would never have been where you are, JUST TAKE THE TEST.

WOW, u really spent a lot of time on this. U have a job? I don’t get boys like you ( unless your a jealous boxer). U mentally masterbait over people who have more than you. So what! Move the fook on. You come across as a jealous exgirlfriend on the rag. Real manly. Your an embarrassment to real men. Change your pad and take a couple Midol.

[pacphobia]

Stellar resume ? lmfao, his first 40-45 fights were all against, malnutritioned farmers and cab drivers from the Phillipines, his fans always speak about 8 weight classes, they can't mention a single fighters name he beat in his first 3 divisions, possibly the most padded record in boxing history, even got KO'd by .. wait for it, Boonsai Sagorot ? Who the hell is that lmfao, the guys a bum and when he faced his biggest rival, he lost and made up excuses.
Another guy he faced coming up had 19 losses and 8 wins , defended his fly title against ... Narong Datchthuyawat ? hahahah his record is utterly pathetic, only impressive name is Margarito, he lost to Morales and Barrera. Couldn't even finish Jeff bloody Horn, Robbed Marquez in every fight until he got flattened and built a career off beating Floyds leftover opponents.

2003-07-26		Emmanuel Lucero	21 0 1		Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
International Boxing Federation World Super Bantam Title
	2003-03-15		Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov	17 5 1		Luna Park Quirino Grandstand, Manila	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	2002-10-26		Prayat Sawaingam	37 2 0		Rizal Memorial Colleges (RMC) Gym, Davao City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
International Boxing Federation World Super Bantam Title
	2002-06-08		Jorge Eliecer Julio	44 3 0		The Pyramid, Memphis	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
International Boxing Federation World Super Bantam Title
	2001-11-10		Agapito Sanchez	31 9 2		Bill Graham Civic Auditorium, San Francisco	D	TD		event bout wiki scores
International Boxing Federation World Super Bantam Title World Boxing Organisation World Super Bantam Title
	2001-06-23		Lehlo Ledwaba	33 1 1		MGM Grand, Las Vegas	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
International Boxing Federation World Super Bantam Title
	2001-04-28		Foijan Prawet	40 3 0		Kidapawan City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	2001-02-24		Tetsutora Senrima	19 4 3		Ynares Sports Center, Antipolo City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	2000-10-14		Nedal Hussein	19 0 0		Ynares Sports Center, Antipolo City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	2000-06-28		Seung Kon Chae	23 0 0		Araneta Coliseum, Barangay Cubao, Quezon City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	2000-03-04		Arnel Barotillo	22 9 3		Ninoy Aquino Stadium, District of Malate, Manila	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	1999-12-18		Reynante Jamili	41 5 0		Elorde Sports Center, Paranaque City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council International Super Bantam Title
	1999-09-17		Boonsai Sangsurat	18 0 0		Pakpanag Metropolian Stadium, Nakhon Si Thammarat	L	TKO		event bout wiki scores
vacant World Boxing Council World Fly Title
	1999-04-24		Gabriel Mira	19 7 1		Araneta Coliseum, Barangay Cubao, Quezon City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council World Fly Title
	1999-02-20		Todd Makelim	7 4 0		Provincial Sports Complex, Kidapawan City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1998-12-04		Chatchai Sasakul	32 1 1		Tonsuk College Ground, Phuttamonthon	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
World Boxing Council World Fly Title
	1998-05-18		Shin Terao	10 2 1		Korakuen Hall	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
	1997-12-06		Narong Datchthuyawat	7 4 0		South Cotabato Stadium, Koronadal City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
OPBF Fly Title
	1997-09-14		Melvin Magramo	22 13 2		Cebu Coliseum, Cebu City	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1997-06-26		Chokchai Chockvivat	34 2 0		Mandaluyong City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
OPBF Fly Title
	1997-05-30		Ariel Austria	10 5 3		Almendras Gym, Davao City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1997-04-24		Wook Ki Lee	0 4 1		Ritsy's, Makati City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
	1997-03-08		Mike Luna	20 7 4		Barangay Sucat, Muntinlupa City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-12-28		Sung Yul Lee	1 2 1		Barangay Ala****, Muntinlupa City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-07-27		Ippo Gala	1 11 1		Mandaluyong City Sports Complex, Mandaluyong City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-06-15		Bert Batiller	10 1 2		General Santos City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-05-20		John Medina	30 30 5		Malabon City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-04-27		Marlon Carillo	21 7 3		Manila Midtown Ramada Hotel - Malate, Manila	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1996-02-09		Rustico Torrecampo	11 4 5		Mandaluyong City	L	KO		event bout wiki scores
	1996-01-13		Lito Torrejos	5 7 1		Covered Court, Barangay Cupang, Muntinlupa City	W	TD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-12-09		Rolando Toyogon	12 11 2		Padre Paredes Basketball Court, Sampaloc District, Manila	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-11-11		Rudolfo Fernandez	8 9 5		Mandaluyong City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1995-10-21		Renato Mendones	3 3 0		Puerto Princesa City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1995-10-07		Lolito Laroa	4 7 2		Washington, Makati City	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-09-16		Arman Rocil	8 19 4		Mandaluyong Sports Center, Mandaluyong Gym, Mandaluyong City	W	KO		event bout wiki scores
	1995-08-03		Acasio Simbajon	4 1 1		Mandaluyong Gym, Mandaluyong Sports Center, Mandaluyong City	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-07-01		Dele Desierto	4 0 0		Mandaluyong City	W	TKO		event bout wiki scores
	1995-05-01		Rocky Palma	4 0 1		Imus	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-03-18		Pinoy Montejo	2 4 0		Sablayan	W	UD		event bout wiki scores
	1995-01-22		Edmund Enting Ignacio	1 1 0		Sablayan

49-0-0 (26 ko's) vs. 0-0-0 (0 ko's) I wonder who is that boxer that fought a guy with a 0-0-0-0 boxing records?

[pacphobia]

49-0-0 (26 ko's) vs. 0-0-0 (0 ko's) I wonder who is that boxer that fought a guy with a 0-0-0-0 boxing records?

Is that boxer with a 0-0-0-(0 ko's) boxing record better than Edmund "Enting" Ignacio (1-0-0)?

[creekrat77]

Safe to say the Fl0^^0s aren't taking Pac officially superseding Mayweather well hehehe