Time For The Sport’s Best To Pull Their Weight

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  • Glamour Puss
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    #11
    Originally posted by King Flawless
    Sure, who likes watching a midget beating up on weight drained fighters. Get stuff.

    JMM/PBF will outsell JMM/PAC

    Speaks volumes
    Not really. One had a countdown show and no major hype.

    And the other has a 24/7 and Floyd owes all his fame to Oscar DeLa Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

    Without them he'd still be doing 300k buys against Zab Judah.

    Lets be real here.

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    • El Angel
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      #12
      Haven't had a big fight really since Cotto-Clottey in June. I'm pumped for Mayweather-Marquez.

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      • King Flawless
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        #13
        Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
        Not really. One had a countdown show and no major hype.

        And the other has a 24/7 and Floyd owes all his fame to Oscar DeLa Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

        Without them he'd still be doing 300k buys against Zab Judah.

        Lets be real here.
        Oscar/PBF and Oscar/Pac both had 24/7, yet Floyd outsold the little midget
        PBF/Hatton and Hatton/Pac both had 24/7, yet Floyd outsold the little pinoy princess

        Mayweather/Judah - 375,000 buys
        350 for Mayweather Gatti
        325 for Mayweather Baldomir

        for Manny

        350 for Morales I
        360 for Morales II
        350 for Morales III
        400 for JMM II
        350 for Barrera II

        Floyd/Judah did better than Pac v Morales/MAB




        And soon PBF/JMM will do more than Pac/JMM

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        • Glamour Puss
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          #14
          Originally posted by King Flawless
          Oscar/PBF and Oscar/Pac both had 24/7, yet Floyd outsold the little midget
          PBF/Hatton and Hatton/Pac both had 24/7, yet Floyd outsold the little pinoy princess

          Mayweather/Judah - 375,000 buys
          350 for Mayweather Gatti
          325 for Mayweather Baldomir

          for Manny

          350 for Morales I
          360 for Morales II
          350 for Morales III
          400 for JMM II
          350 for Barrera II

          Floyd/Judah did better than Pac v Morales/MAB




          And soon PBF/JMM will do more than Pac/JMM
          For being at a much higher weight he didn't do much better.

          Floyd w out Oscar is a nobody.

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          • King Flawless
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            #15
            Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
            For being at a much higher weight he didn't do much better.

            Floyd w out Oscar is a nobody.
            Look at Pacman record without Mexicans Its horrible.

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            • Blue Heffner
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              #16
              Originally posted by King Flawless
              Look at Pacman record without Mexicans Its horrible.
              Yep, you are correct.

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              • gqjohnb
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                #17
                [QUOTE=BIGPOPPAPUMP;6000008]By Jake Donovan - Ten fighters, ten fights.

                The af
                I don't think it's all on the fighters though. The promoters are just as much if not more to blame. If cotto had a choice I think the mayweather fight would have happened already. From what i've read negotiations never got off the ground for that fight largely due to a feud between mayweather and Arum. I think it would be better for boxing if fights were promoted from a third party where as the promoters have little or no direct stake in the outcome of the fight. This would keep things like diaz-mallignaggi from happening and hold all fighters accountable for who they fight or don't fight.

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                • nj_evoixgsr
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by King Flawless
                  Sure, who likes watching a midget beating up on weight drained fighters. Get stuff.

                  JMM/PBF will outsell JMM/PAC

                  Speaks volumes
                  ^WHAT DONT YOU GET. jmm has gotten more popular due to PAC. he has given pac problems and that is speaking volumes for him. PBF is american he should outsell. it's his home country. but it won't be VOLUMES above jmm/pac

                  so jmm/pbf vs pac/cotto sales mean what for you? obviously pac is going to outsell your boyfriend. you won't have nothing to say after.

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                  • -Antonio-
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                    #19
                    I don't know what I'd do with myself if Soto/Valero were a cofeature on Cotto/Pac.

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                    • edgarg
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                      #20
                      I don't like the tenor of this article. Too morbid, and ignores the new reality of boxing, expecting it to be as it was 50-100 years ago. Boxing has evolved, like EVERYTHING ELSE. The times when even top class boxers fought weekly or monthly, just to provide enough money to live on....are GONE. We must face this and accept it.

                      For every fighter who would fight 12 times a year, there are a dozen who wouldn't under any circumstances. They and their advisors are more concerned with staying in good health, and not ending up as "punch-drunk" shambling gym hangers-on. We know more about the physiological effect of being hit hard on the head, that we ever did, and boxers want to end up, firing on all cylinders, and with lots of money.

                      With the advent of Television and potentially huge paydays, AND, most importantly the demise of Mafia control, today's fight "game" is all about the most money for the least hurt.
                      And again I say, "who can blame them"?

                      In the old days, a fighter was completely finished by the age of 30, he was an "elder statesman", so to speak. Today, because of the more careful matching, and expectation of large purses, 30 is just, more often than not, the beginning of a fighter's prime years.

                      Whichever way you look at it, a couple of torrid encounters are often enough to finish a fighter as a top contender or champion. There are enough examples of that, like for instance. Diego Corrales and Castillo, both finished each other off in 3 fights, when yet in their present day prime years.

                      I often think back to Floyd Patterson and Ingemar Johansen.
                      Patterson was the very first heavyweight boxer who regained the title, even though he'd lost it abysmally in an early KO, Yet, both of them died at a very early age, of pugilistic dementia.

                      Anyway folks, we should all realise that the days of Roman style gladiators, expecting or willing to die to win, is gone for good........and I'm thankful that it has.

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