Spence/Porter Final minute of Round 9. Look at these guys. Both of them.

[Stuntman Mike]

You mean like Pacquiao / Horn Round 11?

Oops

You just made me rewatch round 11 and pacquiao landed plenty on horn to keep him off him so what is your point? Plus horns pressure is wrestling and bulldozing wreckless and he's bigger than spence no wonder pacquiao was that tired

Crawford had the timing to make horn look bad and I think pacquiao took something out of him

Def horns best performance

[elfag]

crawford wont fight either of them, hes a ***** and will fight bob arum delivered uber drivers

[Combat Talk Radio]

You just made me rewatch round 11 and pacquiao landed plenty on horn to keep him off him so what is your point? Plus horns pressure is wrestling and bulldozing wreckless and he's bigger than spence no wonder pacquiao was that tired

Crawford had the timing to make horn look bad and I think pacquiao took something out of him

Def horns best performance

Manny did no such thing (keep Horn off).

Horn was a live dog Rounds 10 and 11, and half of Round 12. It was all Manny could handle and he couldn't stop the Teacher from bulldozing "reckless".

The thing is, Horn's strategy was smart - which was, I'm not going to let you intimidate me, I'm going to walk you down and make you regret your choice of career. Which is what I expect Errol Spence to do, but with clean punches landed on Manny just like Mikey.

Manny was ****** for not taking Horn out in the 9th. I don't mean a BS ref stoppage, I mean Manny taking him out. Size shouldn't have mattered, he did way worse to Margacheato.

[John Locke]

One of the best welterweight fights of recent years for sure, Porter has been in this kind of fight with both Thurman and Spence, where the defeats were marginal, extremely competitive and action packed. That's what happens when elite fighters fight eachother. Crawford just doesn't have that kind of xp, I think both guys could overwhelm him.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Great fight sure, but these guys must actually fight Crawford to beat him.

[Stuntman Mike]

Manny did no such thing (keep Horn off).

Horn was a live dog Rounds 10 and 11, and half of Round 12. It was all Manny could handle and he couldn't stop the Teacher from bulldozing "reckless".

The thing is, Horn's strategy was smart - which was, I'm not going to let you intimidate me, I'm going to walk you down and make you regret your choice of career. Which is what I expect Errol Spence to do, but with clean punches landed on Manny just like Mikey.

Manny was ****** for not taking Horn out in the 9th. I don't mean a BS ref stoppage, I mean Manny taking him out. Size shouldn't have mattered, he did way worse to Margacheato.

Margarito was educated plodding pressure
Shawn porter is educated bum rushing
Horn is straight up bum rushing

The old bum rushing is difficult to land clean on unless you have height and long arms like crawford because you have longer to see the spaz rush coming

Manny had much less time to time Horn and connect clean because Horn is way bigger with a longer reach so he is in range before manny is and his bum rushes are shorter distance to cover,whereas with crawford crawford was in range further back than manny and had a bigger window to read and counter Horn
Styles make fights

Spence will look for an opening he won't make one rushing In head first, manny will have time to react to spence trust me

It's so easy to see and I guarantee that manny vs Horn will be nothing like manny vs spence

It will be a far prettier fight to watch

And if manny didn't keep Horn off why wasn't horn in the inside those whole rounds? Horn put a good effort in those rounds you mentioned but manny hit him with some good shots enough to make Horn think twice and recover for a few secs inbetween spaz rushing

[ShoulderRoll]

Great fight sure, but these guys must actually fight Crawford to beat him.

Don't you mean that Crawford must actually be willing to fight a guy like Porter first, in order to beat him?

[Stuntman Mike]

One of the best welterweight fights of recent years for sure, Porter has been in this kind of fight with both Thurman and Spence, where the defeats were marginal, extremely competitive and action packed. That's what happens when elite fighters fight eachother. Crawford just doesn't have that kind of xp, I think both guys could overwhelm him.

Spence would get nowhere near crawford to be inside like this without eating something concussive

Porter maybe because he's an elite bumrusher and takes chances