do you guys still not get the schaeffer/oscar split?

[Curt Henning]

oscar is a dolt...and golden boy has gone downhill since he ousted schaeffer(who was running it during its bull run/golden era) and its now almost basically in the sheeter....schaeffer did all the heavy work with canelo and oscar was gifted a golden goose and he messed that up....

ive had this argument so many times with many different people...the more you stand back and watch the more you see who really was the idiot/bad guy in the oscar/schaeffer beef....oscar has already had a public spat with ryan garcia and it prob wont be long before he ticks off him again or ortiz and they have a falling out

schaeffer was never the bad guy in their split....yet because schaeffer was aligned with haymon and floyd a certain group of idiots tried to see it that way...it couldnt be more obvious today who the really POS was....a bored, jealous, former addict(well he was former for a little while) came to take over the reigns of a company someone else really built and was running very well.......oscars company basically has ryan, ortiz and munguia....and none of them are actual stars yet....gilberto ramirez might be his top draw lol...yet some still run around here trying to tell us that golden boy is better at "cultivating stars"....LOL....

[tritium_arma]

And how is Schaefer doing these days?

[Curt Henning]

And how is Schaefer doing these days?

hes fine...i dont think hes hurting for money or so miserable in his life that hes needed rehab(could be wrong).....he also wasnt able to jump right into boxing after the split because oscar was a sore hoe....schaeffer was at the helm during golden boys bull run and was leading it...he was moving canelo to stardom......hes done more for that company than oscar could...all he lent was a name and a face familiar to boxing fans...hes done nothing since except alienate the biggest star in boxing and lose him

[_Rexy_]

Unless you work for one of the promotions, I don't see why you care.


And bringing up dudes rehab stint against him is pretty low.

[Curt Henning]

Unless you work for one of the promotions, I don't see why you care.


And bringing up dudes rehab stint against him is pretty low.

me "caring" has nothing to do with promotional affiliation or fandom....but ive seen the arguments around here...its a boxing forum where people discuss personalities, fighters, managers, trainers etc.....and to anyone who isnt a low iq/vindictive POS you can clearly see what really happened....oscar hasnt a clue...he was spoon fed canelo and he messed that up...and like a scorned lover hes still upset...hes had public spats with ryan already too....hes a wreck....like his company...and his company was once the king of the hill...guess when that was?

[Curt Henning]

and **** this "low blow" stuff about rehab....all that stuff...booze, ********, coke, any drug, nicotine...is all a choice...if youre a weak minded person youll claim its a disease or addiction.....its not...its a choice...

[Skillz12]

Oscar is a **** up but so is Schaefer who hasn’t done squat since being kicked out.

Ones an idiot the other a snake.

[Curt Henning]

Oscar is a **** up but so is Schaefer who hasn’t done squat since being kicked out.

Ones an idiot the other a snake.

schaeffer was never really going to be able to do much after he got kicked out...especially since oscar had a non compete enforced.....if oscar had left well enough alone who knows how well they could have done...heck al haymon might still just be an advisor who is partnered with golden boy couldnt he? that relationship was working fine and just well at the time oscar decided to come in and break everything up

richard would have had to build from the ground up...absolute start up...and compete against haymon while doing it...in order to be in business....

oscar was handed the keys to a company that was thriving under schaeffers watch....he was also handed a budding star in canelo that turned into a superstar....then what? what has oscar really done with a company he was handed that was at the top of the sport?

[Curt Henning]

schaeffer=has to sit out with non compete....would then have to compete with golden boy, top rank and haymon in order to be successful

oscar=handed a company that was thriving and running well under the guidance of schaeffer....runs into ground and alienates the top star in the sport

pretty simple stuff guys...but i see some of you cant let go of any disdain for haymon/floyd here and there affiliation with schaeffer...lol...some of u need to grow up

just waiting for one oscar defender to tell me something good hes done since schaeffer left

[bballchump11]

Richard was doing Oscar a favor by letting him step away from promoting with a lot of money.