Muhammad Ali's Irish Ancestry Debunks "Whiteboys can't fight" Myth?

[Bad Boy Dazza]

Interesting story, irish guy goes to the states and marries a former slave girl and down the line out pops the greatest boxer of all time. I heard a funny good natured comment where someone says thats funny i didnt realise ali had a drink problem. But now im sure the irish will tell us that ali is the greatest irish boxer of all time, here we go!!

I thought he got rid of his "slave name" going to Ali from Clay, but his white name was not that of a slaver?

[King Flawless]

most black people have white/spanish/arab ancestry in them somewhere.

theres a pretty darn big difference between a natural guy from Africa and your typical American black person, if you think about it

There isn't much difference at all. They are the exact same people.

yea..look at joshua clottey and look at say..andre ward or andre dirrell

Not all black people are dark. You need to get out more.

Are African American boxers, who usually have white in them, better than African boxers, who usually do not?

Are Muhammed Ali and Mike Tyson better than Sam Peter and Friday Ahunyana?

This is down to nutrition and training. Gives Africans same amount of training and nutrition and they would dominate us Americans.

Aren’t Irish tough people. Average Irish man would punk on anyone from Britain

[SMM]

Too late, Willie Pep already debunked this myth about 70 years ago.

[ИATAS]

Joe Calzaghe debunks that white boys can't fight.

Yeah but Calzaghe reinforces the sterotype that whiteboys got no rhythm.

[The_Italian]

well, if you go back far enough, everybody is from africa...

"no. ur from africa...im from the crenshaw mafia" haha.

[BirdSong]

I thought he got rid of his "slave name" going to Ali from Clay, but his white name was not that of a slaver?

Im not exactly sure, just have the outlines of the story so far, but i hope to find out more soon

Aren’t Irish tough people. Average Irish man would punk on anyone from Britain

Too general of a statement i think, good and bad, tough and not so tough in all peoples imo, i think ireland is a progressive modern western euro country, in the past it was pretty tough im sure down to poverty etc, but not so sure now

[Steak]

There isn't much difference at all. They are the exact same people.



Not all black people are dark. You need to get out more.



This is down to nutrition and training. Gives Africans same amount of training and nutrition and they would dominate us Americans.

Aren’t Irish tough people. Average Irish man would punk on anyone from Britain

youre just an idiot.

[jpitt]

joe calzaghe, kelly pavlik, klitschkos, adamek, froch, abraham, kessler, marciano, lamotta, dempsey, graziano, zale, basilio, demarco, willie pep, billy conn, tunney, greb, micky walker, benvenuti, stevie collins, pender, fullmer, marcel cerdan, etc, etc, etc, etc.
**** sake, even guys like gatti, ward, hatton, paz, haugen, mancini, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Can we put this ****ing foolishness to rest once and for all?

Seems self-evident to me too.

[VatoMulatto]

most black people have white/spanish/arab ancestry in them somewhere.

theres a pretty darn big difference between a natural guy from Africa and your typical American black person, if you think about it

Black africans are very diverse when it comes to looks skin color/features...etc. BTW...Muhammed Ali did not look part white. He looks like any other black man. There millions of black africans with his skintone and they sure don't look part white.

[Benncollinsaad]

Bob Marley's father was also white, a Welshman. I dunno if that has any relevancy to this thread, but I wondered if everybody was aware of that.