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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    Yordenis Ugas would have taken $2 million happily.

    But Crawford had no interest in him. So it's clear who is to blame.
    Ugas is not as big a name as Porter and would never be worth $2M. With Porter’s losses to Brook, Thurman and Spence, he is lucky to be worth even $1M anywhere else. There is a lot more that goes in behind the scenes when trying to promote a fight besides what you read on Twitter.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      Bob Arum is against him.


      You could argue no fighter has taken more criticism or been blasted consistently in public by his promoter than Crawford.

      Arum keeps telling him EXACTLY what he thinks of him but Crawford still loves that man and I expect him to re-sign in October for another three years.

      Stop with this crap of Crawford being frozen out. He's getting fighters interested in fighting him and his promoter is not even thinking about making those fights.

      I love how Arum is wanting to put the Taylor fight in the UK when that man is not popular at the least there and neither Sky nor BT Sports wanted to pick the Ramirez fight up.

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        #23
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        Ugas is not as big a name as Porter and would never be worth $2M. With Porter’s losses to Brook, Thurman and Spence, he is lucky to be worth even $1M anywhere else. There is a lot more that goes in behind the scenes when trying to promote a fight besides what you read on Twitter.
        Crawford's side wouldn't fight Porter because of the money. Ugas would take less money but Crawford wouldn't fight him either.

        At some point you have to stop finding reasons not to fight tough opponents. Especially if you claim that everyone is against you.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          Crawford's side wouldn't fight Porter because of the money. Ugas would take less money but Crawford wouldn't fight him either.

          At some point you have to stop finding reasons not to fight tough opponents. Especially if you claim that everyone is against you.
          He wants to get paid but doesn't produce

          Arums a ***, he aint coming out of his own pocket

          If Crawford could draw, arum could find the money to pay him and his opponent

          But Crawford wants to get paid so arum can only pay him

          There comes a point when Crawford has to take lesser pay so arum can pay his opponent too to get him good fights

          But Crawford got to give a little

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            #25
            Arum seems to have buyer's remorse, and has decided to take it out on the fighter rather than hold himself accountable. Maybe Arum shouldn't have signed Crawford to such a expensive contract, maybe he should just let him out of his contract if Crawford is constantly losing him money.

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              #26
              I sort of believe team Crawford, Bob ain’t doing anything for him cuz he isn’t a super star and Bob feels Bud should be more like a Jermall Charlo talking chit and smack on the internet all the time to gain popularity to gain fans and gain Bob money.

              at the same time you got Al Haymon who feels Bud is a threat to his own superstar in the making Errol Spence so not only is he making sure that fight doesn’t happen but he’s trying to squeeze the life out of Bud as an entity by denying him fights with his own stable of top Welters.

              So maybe it is time for Bud to move on from Bob and Top Rank. Considering the stable at the PBC and their defensive in house nature it would make most sense to go there, I never wanted him black mailed in to going with all that "CROSS THE STREET" bull chit but to go on your own free will isn’t being forced. Matchroom or DAZN would really look after Bud, better than Bob has but it wouldn’t change the fact of where the biggest 147 fighters where.

              but then you got Bud himself, he seems to make financial demands that sort of end interest in a fight before anybody gets chance to make them. When you getting cornered by the PBC and when your own promoter is being a salty old cvnt you gotta bend a little, in the ring Crawford packs a punch, at the negotional table not so much. He isn’t the superstar he thinks he is and he needs to bend and lower his demands or he isn’t getting anywhere beyond where he is right now.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                at the same time you got Al Haymon who feels Bud is a threat to his own superstar in the making Errol Spence so not only is he making sure that fight doesn’t happen but he’s trying to squeeze the life out of Bud as an entity by denying him fights with his own stable of top Welters.
                Haymon gave Porter the go-ahead to try to make the Crawford fight. PBC fighter Ugas expressed interest in making the Crawford fight.

                Spence vs Crawford would have been made by now if Crawford would accept his B-side status and stop demanding 50/50.

                Al Haymon isn't to blame here.



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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Haymon gave Porter the go-ahead to try to make the Crawford fight. PBC fighter Ugas expressed interest in making the Crawford fight.

                  Spence vs Crawford would have been made by now if Crawford would accept his B-side status and stop demanding 50/50.

                  Al Haymon isn't to blame here.


                  Spence has shown less than zero interest in that fight, he has actually shown resistance to it. Porter was demanding more money to fight Bud than he was getting as a champion himself and didn’t really make a single REAL forward step to try get the fight made.The point was to make it look like they wanted the fight over actually really wanting it.

                  but to be fair Bud hardly called his bluff, he didn’t bend at all, he didn’t try to force Porters hand. I just think these American stars (divas) are out of control.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.

                    Spence has shown less than zero interest in that fight, he has actually shown resistance to it. Porter was demanding more money to fight Bud than he was getting as a champion himself and didn’t really make a single REAL forward step to try get the fight made.The point was to make it look like they wanted the fight over actually really wanting it.

                    but to be fair Bud hardly called his bluff, he didn’t bend at all, he didn’t try to force Porters hand. I just think these American stars (divas) are out of control.
                    Spence has shown interest but he rightfully wants the larger share of the purse.

                    Porter was demanding more money because he was being offered less than Kell Brook and Amir Khan got. Ugas would have taken the $2 million lowball offer but Crawford wouldn't fight him either.

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                      #30
                      its always about race! whats next donald "the least racist man on earth" trump is racist? impossible!

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