What does Floyd need to do to be as great as Manny?

[SplitSecond]

Just because I point out that you have an irrational level of hate for a man doesn’t mean I love him.

He did push the sport up. You’re just mad he did so by beating a guy you’re a huge fan of.

Let it go dude.

Ok. You done defending him? Going to disappear again until the next Floyd thread? See you then.

[blowblow]

Pac is greater than everyone except Floyd. That is why he always finishes behind Floyd on every credible list of ATGs.

There is no more debate about Floyd and Manny. Floyd won. Floyd finishes higher than Manny on every credible list of ATGs.

Besides, you’re a poster that made a list of names floyd had to beat. He did. When he did you tried to delete the post. Luckily, a couple people sigged it.

You will never have any credibility until you simply admit you were wrong.

on paper floyd is ahead of pac if you are talking about their fight. because he won it (though unconvincingly). but if you are talking about greatness pac is way ahead of him.. history made? no doubt it's pac. in every aspect pac is ahead of him except for one thing (just the defense).. pac never back down and round tripping the whole ring.
people see floyd was greater than pac is because he won in their fight. (IVs, ref, judges).
but ATG? no doubt pac abve floyd..
you guys are acting like if andy ruiz beats muhammad ali means he was ahead of ali... you got to be kidding me.

[blowblow]

Uhmm to name a few..

Let's see..

IVs in his system - check (that alone is an instant DQ and invalidates his win but as the story goes vegas saves the golden goose that lays the golden egg)
Uncle Roger/Coach wants a rematch coz he thinks there's unfinished business - check
Half of the world saw a fluke win - check
Floyd wants a rematch but has cold feet ( meaning he knows himself it's a fluke ) - Check
Foyd's own father wanted him to retire after the fight and saw him fight like a ****** as he told himself in the corner your fighting scared son - check
Floyd fans saw a Marathon hug fest - check

Just to name a few..

But that said, the ship has sailed. Floyd had a chance to prove the doubters wrong this past years.. But he settled in he decided to go the easy route and use his talents in a circus show. That's just how it is. Nothing wrong with that. It just smells c-unt that's all.

Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

LINK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.89dc0b6bea1b



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EVEN IN THE TMT GYM THEY KNOW IT WAS A FLUKE WIN, A ROBBERY LOLOLOLOLOL


Starts @ 0:45

And to END all conversation about this shyit..

LOOK AT THE FACE OF THE GREAT MICHAEL JORDAN.

SAYS IT ALL RIGHT HERE. FUVKIN' FLUKE WIN.






# airless knows how legacy is done and having to do a boring ass marathon and winning like a fluke election win like Sleepy joe ***** won a fake election isn't how to win.

oh i get it.. that's why floyd get manny's number.

floyd had hidden admiration to pac.. he had to hugg him and run from him like a sissy girl and get followed.. i wonder if he also practicing the push and pull techniques of pickup artist.

[The Big Dunn]

on paper floyd is ahead of pac if you are talking about their fight. because he won it (though unconvincingly). but if you are talking about greatness pac is way ahead of him.. history made? no doubt it's pac. in every aspect pac is ahead of him except for one thing (just the defense).. pac never back down and round tripping the whole ring.
people see floyd was greater than pac is because he won in their fight. (IVs, ref, judges).
but ATG? no doubt pac abve floyd..
you guys are acting like if andy ruiz beats muhammad ali means he was ahead of ali... you got to be kidding me.

This is an embarrassing post, even for you. Bringing up Ruiz v Ali is just dumb. Floyd and Manny were 2 guys whose careers occurred at the same time. Comparing guys from 2 drastically different eras is a false equivalency done out of desperation because Floyd beat Manny straight up.

As I keep reminding every pac fan, Floyd is ranked ahead of Manny on every credible list of ATG fighters. The lists have been posted on this site many times. Most recently Floyd finished 1 and Manny 2 on ESPN's list, not that ESPN is the most credible. This is a point none of you can argue against.

Manny has accomplishments, as does Floyd. What Floyd doesn't have is bad losses (torrecampo, Horn) losses by KO (JMM) and a loss to the main rival (Manny). In addition, Floyd has a shutout win over the guy most people have as the #1 p4p boxer in the sport.

If the journalists, historians and experts had Manny ahead, none of you would be making these threads and posts. You'd simply point to those rankings. SInce you guys can't you have to make up these ridiculous ways to try and make Manny better.

[blowblow]

This is an embarrassing post, even for you. Bringing up Ruiz v Ali is just dumb. Floyd and Manny were 2 guys whose careers occurred at the same time. Comparing guys from 2 drastically different eras is a false equivalency done out of desperation because Floyd beat Manny straight up.

As I keep reminding every pac fan, Floyd is ranked ahead of Manny on every credible list of ATG fighters. The lists have been posted on this site many times. Most recently Floyd finished 1 and Manny 2 on ESPN's list, not that ESPN is the most credible. This is a point none of you can argue against.

Manny has accomplishments, as does Floyd. What Floyd doesn't have is bad losses (torrecampo, Horn) losses by KO (JMM) and a loss to the main rival (Manny). In addition, Floyd has a shutout win over the guy most people have as the #1 p4p boxer in the sport.

If the journalists, historians and experts had Manny ahead, none of you would be making these threads and posts. You'd simply point to those rankings. SInce you guys can't you have to make up these ridiculous ways to try and make Manny better.

i made it sarcastically that's why. how floyd gonna lose if he can cherry pick his way from his younger years up to now? pac never even had a boxing background when he enters the boxing. all he did was to punch his opponents in the face. win or lose he doesn't care as long as he has something to take home that could feed his family. on the other hand floyd had a family of boxers. he had all the influence and background.

looking at the history made.. floyd was really far behind pac.. no doubt.. he may be ahead of pac if you are talking about just the two of them since he won on paper.. but career wise? it's definitely pac. no one can even get the 7th division.. how much more the 8th?

[The Big Dunn]

i made it sarcastically that's why. how floyd gonna lose if he can cherry pick his way from his younger years up to now? pac never even had a boxing background when he enters the boxing. all he did was to punch his opponents in the face. win or lose he doesn't care as long as he has something to take home that could feed his family. on the other hand floyd had a family of boxers. he had all the influence and background.

looking at the history made.. floyd was really far behind pac.. no doubt.. he may be ahead of pac if you are talking about just the two of them since he won on paper.. but career wise? it's definitely pac. no one can even get the 7th division.. how much more the 8th?

ok. Nothing wrong with how either got into the sport.

I think the divisions thing is a fair point. Floyd had also climbed divisions. You give manny credit for some of the smaller weights that Floyd was just too big for.

you also need to give Floyd credit for doing it undefeated, something Many hasn’t done.

Again, a point I keep coming back to- when caretakers and experts of the sport rank them, Floyd is universally ranked ahead. These rankings take into consideration all the things we both point out.

[blowblow]

ok. Nothing wrong with how either got into the sport.

I think the divisions thing is a fair point. Floyd had also climbed divisions. You give manny credit for some of the smaller weights that Floyd was just too big for.

you also need to give Floyd credit for doing it undefeated, something Many hasn’t done.

Again, a point I keep coming back to- when caretakers and experts of the sport rank them, Floyd is universally ranked ahead. These rankings take into consideration all the things we both point out.

i can clearly see your point.. that was something other floyd boys didn't see.
for the undefeated record pac has no intention to get a perfect record imho. in his younger years when poverty hits him all he has to do was to get into the ring with hopes but no assurance of the win.. even a single cent is ok with him.. and i'm sure he didn't aim to be the best but his fate put him to the highest level and he just goes with the flow until he reached the top but again he can't turn back to the time he wasn't thinking of a better record in the future.

[Jiub]

He would probably have to dominate Manny's main rival, and beat Manny himself. I'm not sure if that's possible tho. Oh wait....

[The Big Dunn]

i can clearly see your point.. that was something other floyd boys didn't see.
for the undefeated record pac has no intention to get a perfect record imho. in his younger years when poverty hits him all he has to do was to get into the ring with hopes but no assurance of the win.. even a single cent is ok with him.. and i'm sure he didn't aim to be the best but his fate put him to the highest level and he just goes with the flow until he reached the top but again he can't turn back to the time he wasn't thinking of a better record in the future.

Come on blowblow. Manny lost because he lost. No athlete wants to lose. Ever. I get that he was hungry and trying to escape poverty but he still didn’t take a fight thinking I’m going to lose. Unless your suggesting he got paid to throw those fights.

Floyd earned every win he got. If you can’t give him credit then you can’t get upset if someone comes along and decides not to give Manny credit.

Manny lost because the other guy was better that night or because he made a mistake and got caught. It happens.

[blowblow]

in the first place pac never thought of making the boxing his life.. he took every single fight available when he was just starting. not thinking that he will be this big in boxing.. i'm saying pac took the boxing impulsively just to feed their hunger. unlike floyd who was born around boxers knowing what to do and what to achieve.. if you didn't get my point it's ok.