Josh Taylor is the f***ing man!!!

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  • NorvernRob
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    #41
    Originally posted by Richie_R

    Why didn’t Taylor finish him tho? When someone beats the **** out of another or is superior to the fighter, they either finish him when they have them hurt or dominate the entire fight after having had hurt them. Why did Taylor run the rest of the fight? I’ll accept that I was wrong about the outcome, although I still think Ramirez was robbed, but will you also accept that it wasn’t a wipe out like you are making it out to be?
    Robbed? Even if Ramirez won 8 rounds (which he didn’t) he’d have still only won by 2 points. He got dropped twice and the scorecards were generous in his favour.

    Taylor has become undisputed in less than 20 fights, yet somehow he’s still garbage and worse than the fighters he’s beaten

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    • OldTerry
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      #42
      Originally posted by Richie_R
      Lol although Ramirez is a humble warrior, and he is a warrior as he showed yesterday, he is just missing the little extra dog in him. And yet still, he won more rounds than Taylor yesterday and was robbed of the fight. Nevertheless, Ortiz is just a whole other beast...he has that dog in him and the skills, power, and body punching that will make Taylor fold like a lawn chair.
      I had Taylor winning by two points without the two knockdowns. Score should have been 116 Taylor - 110 Ramirez.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #43
        Originally posted by KTFOKING

        He turned pro late, the comparison between him and Floyd who turned pro at 19 or Canelo who turned pro at 15 doesn't make any sense at all.

        Taylor is awesome and deserves all the credit in the world but using the number of fights argument is the same that Lomachenko fans use…. And it is flawed as it gets.
        Fair enough... Canelo and Floyd turned pro earlier. Mayweather was an Olympian amateur and had more schooling than JT, at an earlier age. Canelo turned pro at 15 and did not become one of the best until his late 20's. Maywetaher beat him in a totally one-sided fight, but to his credit that did not deter him.

        Taylor won commonwealth gold in 2014 and then turned pro, and has already fought multiple champions and challengers after 2 years. Now he is going to Vegas and beating a legit champion in his backyard in his 18th fight, after beating Postol, Baranchyk and Prograis, and only fighting one round since Prograis in September 2019.

        Taylor is a beast, like him or not, you HAVE to respect his achievements as a boxing fan - surely?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Vinnykin

          Fair enough... Canelo and Floyd turned pro earlier. Mayweather was an Olympian amateur and had more schooling than JT, at an earlier age. Canelo turned pro at 15 and did not become one of the best until his late 20's. Maywetaher beat him in a totally one-sided fight, but to his credit that did not deter him.

          Taylor won commonwealth gold in 2014 and then turned pro, and has already fought multiple champions and challengers after 2 years. Now he is going to Vegas and beating a legit champion in his backyard in his 18th fight, after beating Postol, Baranchyk and Prograis, and only fighting one round since Prograis in September 2019.

          Taylor is a beast, like him or not, you HAVE to respect his achievements as a boxing fan - surely?
          Absolutely, not once have I downplayed him or his achievements. I'm a Taylor fan just not for this fight as I am admittedly biased towards Ramirez.

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          • Vinnykin
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            #45
            Originally posted by KTFOKING

            Absolutely, not once have I downplayed him or his achievements. I'm a Taylor fan just not for this fight as I am admittedly biased towards Ramirez.
            Sorry if I implied that you did... I just look at Taylor as a risk-taker in the current boxing climate. He was tested early as a pro and has not had easy fights until that one-round KO. Muhammed Ali trophy and then one easy fight and goes over to the US, inactive.

            You don't see ANY other boxer doing what Taylor does, after 18 fights. People are already matching him with Crawford and Teofimo Lopez, so he is P4P contender after 18 fights.

            I am Scottish and really proud of Taylor. He is blasting through divisions and taking tough fight after tough fight.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #46
              [QUOTE=Richie_R;n30915421]

              Why didn’t Taylor finish him tho? /QUOTE]

              Cause Kenny Bayless acted as human shield.

              Taylor won, you were wrong, just take your L and move on fella.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Vinnykin

                The guy is fighting legit champions in his 15th and 17th fight... no boxer alive today or in history was facing this level of competition that early. Not Canelo, Not Mayweather... NO ONE!

                People often forget or claim ignorance to that fact, but Josh Taylor is the number one boxer for fighting top opposition in the world, bar none.
                I remember saying to you years back I thought he was the best fighter we’ve produced since Calzaghe. He’s on track to surpass Joe now.

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                • Vinnykin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  I remember saying to you years back I thought he was the best fighter we’ve produced since Calzaghe. He’s on track to surpass Joe now.
                  Forgive my memory, as I don't remember the exact conversation... but I do remember you were always truthful and honest.

                  I am totally bias when it comes to JT, as he is the best Scottish boxer of my lifetime, and achieving things I didn't think possible... BUT, he has been thrown in the deep end and not had a chance to grow as a fighter, IMO. He's had 18 fights and is now undisputed at 140.

                  Taylor hasn't even peaked yet but I am worried for him. Throwing him in with Crawford in September is a big mistake... he needs two fights at 147 before stepping in with a P4P like Crawford.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin

                    Forgive my memory, as I don't remember the exact conversation... but I do remember you were always truthful and honest.

                    I am totally bias when it comes to JT, as he is the best Scottish boxer of my lifetime, and achieving things I didn't think possible... BUT, he has been thrown in the deep end and not had a chance to grow as a fighter, IMO. He's had 18 fights and is now undisputed at 140.

                    Taylor hasn't even peaked yet but I am worried for him. Throwing him in with Crawford in September is a big mistake... he needs two fights at 147 before stepping in with a P4P like Crawford.
                    I’ve always been a big Taylor fan myself, have travelled up to Scotland several times to watch him, always thought there was something special about him going back to the amateurs.

                    Completely agree on Crawford, that’s too much too soon IMO. I think Crawford is very special, so as much as a I rate Josh I can’t see him beating Crawford but you’re 100% right that Taylor should have one or two fights at 147 first to give him his best possible chance of winning.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Skillz12
                      Dude is garbage he held his way to a win after doing nothing for 5 rds Against a basic average Ramirez.
                      call him out and knock him out, Mr Superman.

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