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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #1

    So much talk about Joshua`s resume

    But would anybody here bet on Povetkin, Whyte, Parker or Ruiz to beat Tyson Fury?

    I mean, seriously?

    I wouldn`t even bet on them to beat Wilder.

    So what huge "resume" is that.

    I think Ruiz would be easier for Fury than Wallin was.
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    Wallin almost beat him (most refs would have stopped it), most refs would have waived off Wilder 1 too. Fury is lucky he's not 2-2 in his last 4 fights.

    If they're so easy why does Fury go much further down the rankings to cherry pick unknowns when those names would be bigger fights?

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      But would anybody here bet on Povetkin, Whyte, Parker or Ruiz to beat Tyson Fury?

      I mean, seriously?

      I wouldn`t even bet on them to beat Wilder.

      So what huge "resume" is that.

      I think Ruiz would be easier for Fury than Wallin was.
      Same idiots who said BJS’s performance against Lemieux, “slickness, rises to the occasion” nonsense, was Canelo’s ******nite…. Facts are Fury’s been knocked down several times, and honestly ask yourselves, was Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz better than Wallin or Schwartz… the same bozos who were saying Wilder was a one dimensional fighter automatically suggests no other HW would give Fury problems? This same OP said Plant is too slick for Canelo. I’m seeing a pattern of great white hype hopefulness tbh… learn to bet

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        #4
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

        Same idiots who said BJS’s performance against Lemieux, “slickness, rises to the occasion” nonsense, was Canelo’s ******nite…. Facts are Fury’s been knocked down several times, and honestly ask yourselves, was Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz better than Wallin or Schwartz… the same bozos who were saying Wilder was a one dimensional fighter automatically suggests no other HW would give Fury problems? This same OP said Plant is too slick for Canelo. I’m seeing a pattern of great white hype hopefulness tbh… learn to bet
        Fury and Wilder don't fight these guys for a reason. Maybe the thread starter can tell us this reason. The reason why Fury skips by them to fight unknowns?

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #5
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          But would anybody here bet on Povetkin, Whyte, Parker or Ruiz to beat Tyson Fury?

          I mean, seriously?

          I wouldn`t even bet on them to beat Wilder.

          So what huge "resume" is that.

          I think Ruiz would be easier for Fury than Wallin was.
          Lets me explain this to you.

          It is Anthony Joshua, not Tyson Fury who has fought all of those fighters. It is irrelevant whether you think, or anyone else thinks Tyson Fury could beat them. Fury has not fought them and beat them.

          I have never ever witnessed a fighter, get so much credit for fights he has not fought 'Tyson Fury resume 80% of his reputation is built up from fights he has no fought, and people just thinking? Oh he will beat Whyte, he will beat Povetkin, he will beat this guy because he is a dosser, oh look? Tyson Fury made a video online telling a story about how somebody a dosser bum dosser, my goodness he must be the greatest heavyweight of all time 'Did any of you guys see that interviews, completely amazing'

          Surely I am not the only person here to have notice this phenomenon? I have mentioned it a few times on these forums 'Actually today I have noticed one other poster becoming aware of this phenomenon'.

          Tyson Fury has fought three times at elite level, and has made zero title defenses. He has some awesome wins, but overall his resume is not really deep.

          Note: And I do see him as favorite to beat Joshua. But overall Joshua has a deeper resume. Tyson Fury may beat every fighter that Joshua has fought but? That is irrelevant because he has not fought them.
          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-18-2021, 05:17 AM.

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          • hugh grant
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            It's not that they d beat tyson. It's that they'd beat most on tyson resume.
            josh resume a bit more depth is the argument, or takam, parker, povetkin, whyte, ruiz, wlad

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            • Ray*
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              I really don't like this, woulda, coulda, shoulda scenarios. Because those guys are at a level where they have the experience and know how. Those guys are more dangerous because you are the favourite to win but they have an element of danger about them.

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              • Inspired
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                #8
                It's easier to take a tough fight and intense training camp, then follow up with a low entropy fight you can recover from physically. What i mean is, over time your body and brain experiences fatigue. Serotonine, dopamine, testosterone etc go down the pan. We're not designed to just boost hormones at will. upregulation of hormones leads to downregulation of the receptors, just like with insulin. It's why boxers end up going on *******, booze etc, because when they experience the lows they lose their head and need stimulants/drugs to give them an equibrium.

                Fury needed a 3 yr natter with the flying spaghetti monster after one big fight.
                He needed annette schwarz and puma swede after beyonce.
                The one time he was backed into a corner and had either wilder or aj, he dragged it along as long as possible so he can rest and played another spin story.

                That's why resume is important. Btw Whyte cracked AJ, povetkin did too. Those type of punches could knock out other HWs and for all i know they would have destroyed Wilder and Fury too.

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #9
                  Fury's worst enemy is consistency.

                  I have no doubt Fury at his best beats all of those names.

                  But could he beat all of those guys in a row fighting 2-3 times a year without losing motivation and making a mistake?

                  Because that is part of being a great champion is turning up regularly time after time fight in and fight out and getting it done.

                  I'm a huge fury fan but I do wish he had more consistency and fought more often, some of it is politics some of it is Fury's personality but he could have given us more big fight nights than he has that's for sure.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                    I have never ever witnessed a fighter, get so much credit for fights he has not fought [U][B]
                    Because Youtube has a unique culture of UK fight fans vs LDBC Haymonites. The LDBC world had about 500K followers from various boxing channels going against both Fury and AJ. Fury STOLE the shine from Wilder vs AJ. Most of Fury fans rejoice because an Ogre slob who just imposes weight and showboats reach was able to beat a loud mouth twerking Thug. Many fans enjoyed that. I never had a dog in the rematch tbh, because the fight I really wanted from the get go was Wilder vs AJ for True Undisputed.

                    I also don't like, as you said, how Tyson Fury doesn't get slack from industry writers about Nandrolone for a post fight urine test. He was in layman's terms fighting Christian Hammer from the benefits of anabolic steroids. I don't know when Fury was LAST tested before his fight for Hammer, but he failed his locker room test. Meanwhile we've got former pro-LDBC guests like Breadman Edwards who continuously brings up PEDS on Canelo, which technically, Canelo passed all pre and post tests for fights.

                    Obvious agendas much? I'm going to take a wild guess... Breadman gives Fury a pass because Sugar Hill is with him?

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