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  • batista84
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    Originally posted by elfag View Post
    This actually isnt true.

    Saunders was initially shelled up and cautious. Canelo made sure to hit him to the body and arms and as Roy Jones said, this is so they can feel his power, even if it doesnt land on the chin right away when they feel the power and its more than they thought a former junior middle should have, it makes them weary and stay shelled up. Saunders adjusted in the mid rounds and found his stride, completely contrary to what hating Andrande is saying. He won some rounds and he had more success opening up, trying to stay on the outside and he was ducking some winging hooks that canelo was throwing. Canelo noticed the bending down real low and went back to the upper cut and one of them ended the fight.

    Canelo is just a much better fighter than saunders or andrade or anyone out there today. Saunders had his moments but he isnt a roy jones or calzaghe so his punching on the outside hands low tactic only worked so long before canelo adapted and found a way.
    Very good take of what happened.

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  • factsarenice
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    Originally posted by VashDBasher View Post
    Andrade can try and make it sound as if he has the game plan to beat Canelo. It’s always easier said than done. Andrade stands no chance against Canelo in my opinion.
    Canelo may well be the guy to beat Andrade but make no mistake, Andrade is a far more difficult task than BJS. He has power enough to keep from getting trapped on the ropes and even though he has habits like every other fighter he's awkward and difficult to time. Andrade is big with a very, very difficult style.

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  • thack
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    It’s like Mike Tyson once said they all have a game plan until they get hit in the face....much the same here , BJ is a very good fighter but Canelo is exceptional

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  • factsarenice
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    Andrade is right, Saunders never made adjustments because he can't. Billy Joe did what he always does and thought it would be enough. Canelo, or should I say Renoso picked up on BJS's habit of ducking under and dipping to the same side over and over again and again. Like Fury, BJS ducks under hooks and it works with head hunters like Wider and David Lemieux but Canelo is more than a head hunter and his most effective punch just happens to be a quick, in close, uppercut. The uppercut missed a lot but team Canelo stuck with it knowing that just like Fury, BJS doesn't have the power to keep him off and he would eventually lie on the ropes and do his ducking thing.

    It's not complicated, every fighter watching knew it was coming.


    Last edited by factsarenice; 05-11-2021, 09:17 AM.

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  • 1hourRun
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    Originally posted by Demetrius 'Boo-Boo' Andrade
    And then you’re ducking like an amateur. He was ducking down low, like an amateur. And those uppercuts were all Canelo was throwing all night. So, why do you keep bending that way? It was just there for the taking whenever the opportunity came. So, Canelo caught him on his way out, maybe, when he was coming out from the duck, and he got caught clean.”






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    ^Above, I submit to the boxingscene sample of what Demetrius Andrade speaks on : From the first round, Billy Joe gave Saul Alvarez all the right signals for the KO by ducking like a scared amateur. Billy Joe was so tired of getting uppercut that he actually jumped into one to be done with the contest.
    I have to agree with Demetrius Andrade, knowledgeable fans of the sweet-science were studying Billy Joe Saunders tactics during the fight, I for one cringed at such low-level boxing -- that cant even be called European style, because the Euro's box straight up and long, I dont know what that was. Billy-Hoe was fighting like a scared amateur is a good way to put it.

    Saunders green reactions, did not make it difficult for Saul Alvarez to find the means to effectively exploit his flawed defense. Andrade's detractors will not accept that 'Boo-Boo' would actually compete with Saul Alvarez, the comments that suggest that Billy Joe put up a fight made me laugh. This insightful quote from Andrade reinforces my confidence in WBO middleweight champion, his knowledge is at a greater level than that Euro-Bum, Billy Hoe Saunders.

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  • RingMaster2018
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    Doo Doo, “Get the F**k outta here”!

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  • Oldskoolg
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    Agreed, you can’t let Canelo dictate the pace. Canelo is a bully, it’s going to take someone with a bully the bully mentality to beat him now that he has grown into his prime size. Ggg could have done it but he was content to try and jab his way to victory and never turned up the pace through I still though ggg won the first and the second was a toss up. Someone’s going to have to hurt Canelo, hit him to the body, throw him to the ground in clinches....someone’s going to have to replicate a Holyfield v Tyson or a Honeyghan v Curry performance

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  • Jack_sh*t
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    Originally posted by elfag View Post
    This actually isnt true.

    Saunders was initially shelled up and cautious. Canelo made sure to hit him to the body and arms and as Roy Jones said, this is so they can feel his power, even if it doesnt land on the chin right away when they feel the power and its more than they thought a former junior middle should have, it makes them weary and stay shelled up. Saunders adjusted in the mid rounds and found his stride, completely contrary to what hating Andrande is saying. He won some rounds and he had more success opening up, trying to stay on the outside and he was ducking some winging hooks that canelo was throwing. Canelo noticed the bending down real low and went back to the upper cut and one of them ended the fight.

    Canelo is just a much better fighter than saunders or andrade or anyone out there today. Saunders had his moments but he isnt a roy jones or calzaghe so his punching on the outside hands low tactic only worked so long before canelo adapted and found a way.
    Came here to say just this. Spot on analysis Mr F4g.

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  • Liondw
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    Everyone has a game plan, but if you get punched hard, the plan can go out the window. He had a game plan, but he did make a few errors. He threw a wild right hook, and as he bent down Canelo caught him with that brutal uppercut.

    Of course, he was looking for that punch earlier, and his camp studied Saunders and knew that was possibly the money punch. It turned out to be, essentially, the punch that ended the fight.

    Maybe Andrade could do better but I don't see him beating Canelo. I think the others like Benavidez and Charlo give him tougher fights, but I'd still give Canelo the edge. He's in the zone now. Since losing to Mayweather, and no he wasn't too young, just outboxed, he's clearly improved and is The star of boxing.

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  • VashDBasher
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    Andrade can try and make it sound as if he has the game plan to beat Canelo. It’s always easier said than done. Andrade stands no chance against Canelo in my opinion.

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