Is Freddie Roach the worst trainer to ever exist?

[LeOoze]

- -Oozy oozing pus while being Trillerized rather unseemly it would seem.

wtf who are you

[meat_abstract]

Roach has often seemed to me like a big name that old guys hire when they don't want to work hard anymore. Certainly it's a generalization - I'm sure many of his fighters work very hard, and it's not like Pac showed up to a bunch of fights fat and undertrained or anything.

He's kind of like the new Angelo Dundee, where he'll work for you if you pay him enough, and having him as your trainer gives you credibility with promoters. For lots of fighters, especially older ones with deep pockets who maybe don't think they need guidance anyway, the added name recognition is appealing, even if he's not actually a good match for them as a trainer.

[pasawayako]

We can all agree that roach is 10x better trainer than may sr

[-Kev-]

I don’t think so. Not at all actually.

Roach has a terrible record as a pro. But it’s former fighters like Roach, who know all about losing, that can tell you how to win based on his experiences.

Also, I think a trainer like Roach is very good for a certain style and that is a style that is based more on offense than anything else.

Another thing about Roach as a trainer is you can see his gym kind of like an ivy league school. In that it’s the networking, the statistics of companies hiring from that school just because of the name, and the success/money that comes with it. In this boxing scenario, if you box out of Roach’s gym, you will likely meet some top notch fighters and get some really good work in. You’ll get top sparring partners. You will get better just based off of the sheer amount of competitive guys in his gym.

If I was an amateur, I’d be thirst af to get trained by guys like Freddie Roach or Roberto Garcia. Just because being in their gym will make you a better fighter because of the fighters they attract.

[BodyBagz]

Most trainers are overrated

The notable ones lucked out by finding diamonds in the rough.

Everyone Roach trained, anyone could have trained. He didn't bring anything to the table other than hype.