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  • Jab jab boom
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    #51
    Originally posted by whollisboxing

    I think that Campbell and Linares are about the same tallest-wise, which is why their fight was close. They are both good fighters who can be very good depending on the matchup
    talent wise Linares is much more talented than Campbell. The difference is Campbell is a little younger with less wear and tear.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

      The most truthful post out of all of them. People truly don’t conduct any research at all before they go full bore nut hugfesting. When he was gifted his paper title his opposition’s record was 185-155. Read that again 185-155. This man’s opposition record is exactly what we’ve all been talking about. He is a completely manufactured hype job. Of course he’s supposed to look good against opponents with awful records. His first “named” fighter Gamboa, a former champion that’s far beyond his prime he couldn’t finish him.

      He’s a hype job.
      if he was a manufactured hype job as you say, Loma would’ve fought him rather than give him the belt.

      while you and others are entitled to your opinion about Haney, the real truth is he is low reward, high risk for any LW.

      while you are absolute correct about the combined record of his opponents, you are not pointing out that all the top guys at 135-Teo, Loma, tank and Ryan- want nothing to do with Haney.

      haney is a big, fast, athletic, long armed LW with above average skills. That makes him tough for any LW in to beat.

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      • theface07
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        #53
        This is hilarious. Haney is acting like he's the man at lightweight yet he's fighting a faded fighter in Linares who got stopped by Pablo Cesar Cano a few fights ago. I have a lot of respect for Linares for what he's accomplished but at this point, he's not a top contender anymore. At the same time, you have clowns on here criticizing Fabio Wardley, a fighter with 0 amateur fights and 11 pro fights for fighting a faded one time contender in Eric Molina, yet Haney, a world title holder, gets a pass for fighting Linares. Talk about a double standard.

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        • theface07
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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          while you are absolute correct about the combined record of his opponents, you are not pointing out that all the top guys at 135-Teo, Loma, tank and Ryan- want nothing to do with Haney.
          How do you know that? Have you been in on communications between camps about possible future matchups? Why would Garcia want nothing to do with Haney? It would get him closer to unifying the division against someone whose style he is familiar with. Both Garcia and Loma have already beat better opponents than Haney has and Lopez beat Loma, who was THE MAN at lightweight and arguably P4P #1. Maybe you're right but I don't know where the info is coming from that Haney is the dodged boogeyman of the division.

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            #55
            after all that talk, this guy decides to get a loma leftover

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              #56
              Originally posted by theface07

              How do you know that? Have you been in on communications between camps about possible future matchups? Why would Garcia want nothing to do with Haney? It would get him closer to unifying the division against someone whose style he is familiar with. Both Garcia and Loma have already beat better opponents than Haney has and Lopez beat Loma, who was THE MAN at lightweight and arguably P4P #1. Maybe you're right but I don't know where the info is coming from that Haney is the dodged boogeyman of the division.
              In the age of the internet anyone who “talks” “calls out” is dodged. Social media has given people who would otherwise be no one of any consequence a platform to make themselves “somebody.”

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #57
                Originally posted by theface07

                How do you know that? Have you been in on communications between camps about possible future matchups? Why would Garcia want nothing to do with Haney? It would get him closer to unifying the division against someone whose style he is familiar with. Both Garcia and Loma have already beat better opponents than Haney has and Lopez beat Loma, who was THE MAN at lightweight and arguably P4P #1. Maybe you're right but I don't know where the info is coming from that Haney is the dodged boogeyman of the division.
                I think part of the problem is you are putting this into some silly “boogie man” narrative rather than just look at from a boxing perspective.

                Was I part of the conversation, of course not. However, i did give a rational boxing related explanation-Haney is big, fast skilled making him high risk and no reward.

                Teo, Tank or Ryan could easily make the haney fight given their earning power. Teo didn’t and instead made a fight with kambosis. Ryan made clear he wanted manny over his mando with devin. Tank was talking about Gary Russell.

                Loma gave up the belt rather than defend against Haney the mando. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t the top LW when Teo beat him but it does show the risk/reward of fighting Haney isn’t worth it.

                I also dispute that they beat “better” opponents. Styles make fights, not names. So Loma may be a higher ranked p4p fighter then Haney but would he be a tougher LW opponent given Haney’s size and attributes? I don’t t believe so.

                as an example -canelo, manny and hatton are far better fighter than maidana but he gave Floyd a much tougher fight than any of them.

                Haney is like a poor mans Money May, although not as talented. When you’re really good and you’re not a huge draw there is no incentive for top drawing guys to risk fighting you .

                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-31-2021, 05:19 AM.

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                • South Champion
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                  #58
                  Haney says he won't fight Loma because of his decision loss to Teo. But Haney will fight the guy who got stopped by Loma.

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                  • whollisboxing
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    talent wise Linares is much more talented than Campbell. The difference is Campbell is a little younger with less wear and tear.
                    Fair enough and I can agree that peak Linares is better than peak Campbell. My point is that both guys are at a similar level at this point, which is why their fight was close and competitive.

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                    • whollisboxing
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by South Champion
                      Haney says he won't fight Loma because of his decision loss to Teo. But Haney will fight the guy who got stopped by Loma.
                      This is what Haney reportedly said about a month ago:

                      While his interest in facing Lomachenko has somewhat waned since the Ukrainians defeat at the hands of Teofimo Lopez just a few months ago, Haney still believes that a showdown between them would be nothing short of box-office.

                      “I’m happy that he finally acknowledged me and interested in fighting me. It sucks that now it comes after he takes a loss. I would rather it happen when he was on top but at the end of the day, a fight with Loma would still be huge and a fight that I would welcome.”


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